With trade deadline approaching, rumors surround these names. Matt Bowen
With the NFL trade deadline quickly approaching in the 2009 season, there have been some names floated out along the media wires—big names that are rumored to be on the market.
But the question remains—what would it cost and what would their true value be? Let’s take a look at three names that have been mentioned over the last week.
1. Julius Peppers, Carolina
Peppers is the most intriguing name right now because of his upside. But can you always count on that? The talk around the league has always been that Peppers is a guy who takes plays off. But despite the talk, it is hard not to envision how the Carolina defensive end could fare with your team. In ’09, Peppers has three sacks in five games playing in defensive coordinator Ron Meek’s Tampa 2 scheme. On paper he looks like the ideal guy to rush off the edge in a 4-3 scheme, but he is even more attractive as a 3-4 DE, as a guy who can hold the edge and get pressure in an attacking scheme—which is what the Green Bay Packers run. However, Peppers is playing on a one-year franchise deal, and it might be a case of trading for his rights for the rest of this season and working towards a long-term deal. Peppers is going to want starting quarterback money.
2. Terrell Owens, Buffalo
There is plenty of talk about the Bills moving T.O. these days—but is it for real? Owens doesn’t have much of anything to show for his ‘09 production, having only caught 12 passes for 202 yards and a TD. You can look at Owens’ average yards per catch, which is sitting at 16.8, and still see some hope for some big play potential. But how much does he have left? I don’t see the value of trading for a WR that will be 36 this season and can’t get off the line of scrimmage—and that is just the issue. Defenses don’t have to roll coverage to his side, and coordinators don’t have to game plan specifically to stop his production anymore. If you are looking for a “quick fix” to your team’s No.2 or even No.3 option on the outside, T.O. could be an answer. But spend draft picks or players on a guy that could unseat the locker room within a week if he doesn’t get his way? I don’t see much value for Owens at this point in his career.
3. Brady Quinn, Cleveland
The rumors about Quinn are hot right now after reports that the former first-round pick had put his house on the market in suburban Cleveland. But what are you getting in return? It is hard to pull the trigger on a deal for a player that was just benched, and considering the downfalls of Quinn’s overall game and lack of big-play capability, is there really a market out there for him? As a backup QB, yes. But if you are thinking about bringing Quinn in via a trade and looking for meaningful production, I don’t see it. Add in the fact that current Cleveland starter Derek Anderson just went 2 of 17 on Sunday in the Browns win, and Eric Mangini might think twice about trading off his second option. Quinn has the name and he has the first-round draft tag attached to him, but his play tells us another story.
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Still think there is a market for Quinn, He will still be a hot name because Cleveland was dumb enough to draft him in the first round and because he was a Golden Domer.
Someone will make a play for him if the Brownies put his name out there.
Packers need to pull the trigger on Peppers. He would be a beast in Capers 3-4 scheme and become a solid run defender. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery to get back to Pro Bowl form.
Maybe Pepper's could also play Left and Right Tackle for the Packers, and Running Back.
Peppers looks interesting for GB, but I think it would be a huge mistake for the following reasons:
1) He's unproven in a 3-4 system. Paying $10M a year for an unproven player who takes plays off isn't very wise - salary cap or not
2) Peppers put out a list of teams he wanted to be traded to last off-season and GB wasn't on that list. Doesn't make sense to trade for a guy who doesn't want to be where you are.
3) He's a free agent at the end of the season. Unless you trade and sign to an extension at the same time, the move doesn't make sense, especially with 1 and 2 above.
4) Ted Thompson doesn't like to pay big $ to guys he didn't draft or want to draft, so this likely won't happen anyway.
If I were GB and I had a choice, I'd much rather have Jordan Gross LT from the Panthers and would trade Kampman and a 2nd or 3rd round pick to get him. But I doubt Carolina would trade Gross after re-signing him last year. He's also the highest paid lineman in the NFL.
Da Coach is right. Knox looks like a real find.
M.O.T. - I'd love to see Peppers with the Packers. Losing Kampman would be tough but he is not a 3-4 player and this is becoming obvious. Peppers is just a better player. Thompson likely wouldn't pull the trigger and find a deal with the Panthers. It would be great if it happened as it would really help the push and the LB pressure.
Pepper - Raji - Jennings (Pickett & Jolly)
OMG- Peppers in GB? NO WAY! Are you kidding me? Peppers is an over-the -hill, overrated "name" player that still has delusions of grandeur. He really believes he should get a contract to rival Albert Haynesworth (and of course, the stellar play of Washington this season shows the reasonableness of that belief). What, the Packers should trade an unproductive Kampman (in the 3-4- SURPRISE! He can't cover!) for an already noted as overrated nobody at OLB? Good idea. Then, maybe the Packers should re-sign Derrick Frost, and re-sign Anthony Smith, so they can cut him again at the last second. Gimme a break.
brady quinn will not get traded because his stats are better than anderson
Losing Kampman would be tough but he is not a 3-4 player and this is becoming obvious. Peppers is just a better player. Thompson likely wouldn't pull the trigger and find a deal with the Panthers.
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Oct 14, 2009
10:16 AM
I agree with the T.O. talk. He has been linked to the Bear, which is a crap idea. Why stunt the play of Johnny Knox? Stupid--only ESPN spews that nonsense,