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Disconnect in scouting

Foot soldiers are often left behind at crunch time on draft day. Jack Bechta

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NFL scouting is not a perfect science. Tony Mandarich and Ryan Leaf were high first-round draft picks. Defensive tackles John Randle and La’Roi Glover went undrafted. Tom Brady was a sixth-rounder. So why is the scouting system only about 60- to 70-percent accurate? I have some theories.

My 24 years as an agent have given me a front-row seat to watch and learn about the typical NFL scouting system. I have probably had a few players drafted higher than they deserved and some drafted lower compared to their eventual production. I’ve seen small-school players get over looked at the combine and all-star games and watched clients not get drafted at all, then start in their rookie years. Any agent you talk to has a story about how the scouting has mistreated their clients.

I love the forensics and science of football. Scouting is the R&D (research & development) department of an NFL franchise. After talking to a few scouts, scouting directors and two GMs recently about this subject, I realized where the primary fault lies in this system. The No. 1 problem falls in the “disconnect of communication” between the road/regional scout and the final decision-makers on draft day. Either that or your scouts just outright stink.

To understand the scouting system, you must first understand the role of the regional scout. This person usually resides in a region of the country that he also covers. For instance, a west coast scout could live in San Francisco and cover the Pac-10, the Mountain West and all the schools within the western region. The regional scout circulates among these schools anywhere from two to five times a year. He may attend spring practice, pro day, a game, a practice and/or just stop by to watch some tape and ask some questions. A regional scout will most likely watch a player develop for four years. He gets to know the players extremely well. He even gets to know how good or how bad the coaches are who are developing the players.

The regional scout is a hard-working foot soldier whose first priority is to collect data. That data is then delivered in the form of reports to his superiors. The superiors, such as the scouting director, GM, head coach and even the owner review the information and rank players based on their internal grading system.

The irony of this system is that the regional scouts probably may have the best idea of how players should be stacked against one another. However, come draft day, the GM, owner and head coach usually make the decision regarding whose name is called at the podium in New York. Some teams now have their regional scouts fully integrated in the war room on the draft weekend while others literally lock them outside.

Another twist to the system is that regional scouts may only be in the team office a few times a year while the top execs see each other every day and work alongside the coaching staff. Thus, the communication between the two groups can sometimes be awkward. Although many GMs and directors started out as regional scouts and still hit the road themselves, there still can be a major disconnect as information flows up the chain of command.

Scouts are actually paid to give an opinion, although many are afraid to do so. It’s typical for a regional scout to be called into the war room and asked a question about a player in front of the owner, the president, the head coach and GM. The scout must decide what information he should deliver to the power group and at what level of conviction it should be delivered. A scout knows the delivery is as important as the information, and the moment may be a defining one is his career -- for better or worse.

I love hearing stories about scouts getting into heated debates in the war room during or prior to the draft. That means they have conviction about their players and are doing their jobs. It’s no coincidence that a more passive scout may not get as many guys drafted from his region because he may not have the personality to champion them. So it’s very important for these scouts to develop communication skills that allow them to communicate effectively.

Another interesting dynamic that occurs in the draft process is how many cooks come into the kitchen when it’s time to serve the meal. As we get closer to the draft, a lot of regional scouts fade into the background while the generals take control.

To further complicate the process, scouts and top execs may have a different set of needs to fill on draft day. The execs have to think of the big picture, things like: How does the player’s chemistry fit with the current team? Will the owner like the player? What will the fans think of me when I draft this player? Am I spending the owner’s money wisely? How will the media react to my pick? Can he help us right away? Will he respond to our coaching staff? Can he learn the offense/defense quickly? Will time, fame and money change the player? Does the current environment allow for this player to develop? Will the fans and media be patient with his development? Where does this player project in terms of maturation and development in one, two, even three years from now?

On the other hand, the scouts are more focused on how the player compares to his peer group. So when asked, a scout may sell a player with conviction because he feels he’s a superior football player to the peer group. However, he may not take into account all the needs of the top execs listed above.

A scout I talked to earlier this week told me that if he tried to fight for a 6-foot linebacker, his execs would not take him seriously, regardless of how productive the player was in college. “They are too quick to stereotype, and some other egos get in the way,” he said.

Some of the more successful scouting operations I’ve seen have been teams that keep small staffs; their top execs spend considerable time on campuses and in the film room. In addition, they communicate often with their scouts and make them as important a part of the process as they are. The staffs that communicate openly and frequently respect each other’s opinions will win the R&D battle in late April.

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Joe Don Looney
Mar 12, 2010
03:28 PM

eing a Steelers' fan, for now: one of the mysteries in life is how the team can get Nate Washington as a UDFA and draft Limas Sweed R2, or Fred Gibson, R4. Or: get James Harrison as a UDFA, and draft Zo Jackson in R2, or draft both Joey Porter and Bruce Davis in R3.

Willie Parker, Chris Hoke, Keydrick Vincent and Dan Kreider are notable UDFA too. Semi-notable. In contrast: over the last 7 drafts (2003 and on) they've rarely managed to select more than 2 starters per class. When 3, the 3rd is a marginal type like Trai Essex or William Gay.

Mike J
Mar 12, 2010
05:29 PM

What about National & BLESTO?? We hardly hear anything from them at all anymore.

mack
Mar 12, 2010
05:33 PM

Mike J: BLESTO - Have not heard that acronym for quite a while. Guess it would have to be called BLESTT now.

Bears-Lions-Eagles-Steelers-Oilers

Randolph
Mar 12, 2010
06:59 PM

I've often wondered what Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb from the Bears do....can't you just hear the conversation between them. They've had, or Jerry Angelo has had, as many bad picks as anyone I'm familiar with. Does anyone (I'd certainly think that Agents have this number on the tip of their tongue) keep running numbers of draft busts by GM/Team? It would be an interesting list, that maybe someone could post 'anonymously'!

Jay22red
Mar 12, 2010
07:34 PM

Jack,

I have found your articles to be extremely insightful, it is very interesting to hear "This Angle, This Access."

Regarding your article; Do agents target GM's that have a bad record of drafting? It would seem logical that if you could talk up a R6 to a R4 by selling the GM, one would.

For instance: if I had a physical freak that posted great numbers the first person I would go to is Al Davis- simply based on his track record.

I guess I am asking- Since it is the agents goal to get their prospect drafted high, do you target GM based on history?

mark f
Mar 12, 2010
08:16 PM

Excuse me Jack. Did you say the owner makes these picks sometimes? Is that really true?

I can see an owner breaking a tie between different factions in an organization, but will an owner really make a pick?

sunflower100
Mar 13, 2010
12:29 AM

Jerry Jones/Al Davis pick the players themselves. That's part of the reason that the Raiders have sucked so badly the last few years.

Jack Bechta
Mar 13, 2010
03:26 PM
Jack Bechta

mark, owners do get involved with picks. The Brown(bengals) family, the Jones boys, Al davis, the Spanos', The Bidwells, and several others. however, most will rely on the information provided to them by their staff. They usually weigh in on the first rounder.
jay, there are only a few agents who might have the clout to massage an owner enough to influence their decision but the scenario is highly unlikely.
I should also add that scouts usually perform cross checks on another scout's region. Some teams even break this down by position.


Mr. Murder
Mar 13, 2010
04:34 PM

Love the idea of cross checking and position review, that way a double or triple positive confirms value and can elevate your assumptions of him.

Mr. Murder
Mar 13, 2010
10:12 PM

From what I can verify, regional scouts for one NFL each pick the best player in their region for each particular round or grouping of picks. Thise form the basis of a "BPA" list for said team. A group of great players, one from each region, to each round.

The availability of said players will of course change dramatically and perhaps move players upward or find a value that slipped for other reasons(quantitative)..

mark f
Mar 14, 2010
11:07 AM

Thanks Jack. Anybody can read a scouting report, but it would seem to me that coaches and longtime scouts, would develop a sixth sense about players based on their life long work in football, and that's where the rubber meets the road.

We haven't had anyone post Jack their Resume in a long time have we?

I used to love that when Jack first started writing this column.

"Jack Great column. Oh BTW; I'm trying to get certified...can I have one of your clients?" LOL
There were some great ones posted here and I found it super amusing.

Is there a column in those older requests for help from fledgling agents? A humorous look at internet groveling? C'mon Jack...you must have laughed too!

banzai
Mar 15, 2010
11:02 PM

Great column Jack...speaking of lack of communication of what the scout SEES IN PERSON compared to what happens on draft day, How much do workout numbers overshadow a "football player", and how do they help a "workout guy"? Keep up the good work

Rambler
Mar 19, 2010
12:31 PM

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Bill Bidwill, owner of the St Louis football Cardinals, once had the brilliant notion of picking a MU QB.#1 who was not a legit #1, but he could be signed cheaply and Bill figured he would make the home town crowd happy. Turns out this QB only had one good eye and not much of a feel for the game. Bidwill had lots of input into the operation of the team and he was fully responsible for the miserable results the team had over the years.

Scrabble Cheat
May 21, 2010
03:00 AM

Sure it's not scouting is not an exact science. It require a lot of knowledge and some humilty, because sometimes, you just can't predict the future.

replica tag heuer
Jul 24, 2010
10:41 AM

So how did Roger Staubach, Emmitt Smith and Steve Young handle their money from their rookie years to today.

replica tag heuer
Jul 24, 2010
10:42 AM

Sure it's not scouting is not an exact science. It require a lot of knowledge and some humilty, because sometimes, you just can't predict the future.

Term LIfe Rates
Oct 19, 2010
11:19 PM

That is whats so fun about football. How many Tony Romo's and Kurt Warners have made a huge impact on the league?

Also, how many Jerry Rices come from Fort Valley State?

Love the NFL!

Term Life Rates
Oct 19, 2010
11:20 PM

That is whats so fun about football. How many Tony Romo's and Kurt Warners have made a huge impact on the league?

Also, how many Jerry Rices come from Fort Valley State?

Love the NFL!

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