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East-West Shrine practice begins

Day one notes: Who looked good, who didn’t. Wes Bunting

Print This January 19, 2010, 01:05 PM EST
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ORLANDO -- It was a padless practice for both sides on Monday at the East-West Shrine Game, but the National Football Post still has plenty to report and break down from the opening day of workouts.

East team

Two up

Purdue DT Mike Neal and Ohio State DL Doug Worthington both made good first impressions on me Monday. Neal is a natural bender who displays an explosive first step and good power on contact, while Worthington looks like one of the most technically sound defensive linemen here. He does a great job staying low and balanced out of his stance while extending his long arms into contact, and even though he might lack ideal bulk to hold up inside at the next level, at nearly 6-5 and 288 pounds, he projects nicely as a potential five-technique guy.

Two down

Two defensive linemen who did not start the week with favorable impressions were North Carolina State’s Willie Young and Connecticut’s Lindsey Witten. Both are tall, long-armed defensive ends who definitely pass the eyeball test walking on the field. But neither is a natural bender, and both struggle to play with leverage and power on contact. Plus, both players are thin in their lower halves and didn’t exhibit the type of athleticism needed to make up for their lack of power/technique.

Small school can sling it

John Skelton, Fordham’s standout quarterback, is a tall drink of water who can really spin the football. He throws a tight, clean spiral even when asked to drive the ball outside the numbers and displays much more polished footwork than expected, generating a lot of power from his lower half once his back foot hits the ground. He isn’t the most gifted athlete and struggles with his accuracy when asked to reset his feet and quickly realign his body into throws, but he has a good physical skill set and looks like one of the more intriguing senior quarterback prospects in the draft.

A rough first go

Penn State quarterback Daryll Clark had a tough time finding any type of a rhythm on Monday. Clark isn’t a real decisive quarterback and struggles to be efficient with the ball when he doesn’t see the throw. But what really puzzles me is how sloppy his footwork can be for such a good athlete. He has a tendency to consistently lose his base in the pocket, and his accuracy suffers because of it.

Penn State pride

One bright spot for Penn State on Monday was tight end Andrew Quarless, who is far and away the most explosive TE on the East roster. His ability to fire out of his stance and get down the seam was a real eye opener, and he definitely looks like someone who can make plays vertically at the next level. The biggest concern I have with him is his awareness off the snap and his ability to consistently get off the ball on time. But overall, it was a productive first day for Quarless.

West team

Small school in a big package

Speaking of productive first days for tight ends, Eastern Washington’s Nathan Overbay had a solid initial practice. Overbay is a big kid who displayed a good feel for coverage, hauling in three tough grabs in practice and being the most productive target in the West passing game. He isn’t an explosive downfield athlete, but he’s a smooth/coordinated route runner who adjusts well to the football and knows how to extend and pluck away from his frame.

Change hurts

Arizona State DE Dexter Davis is trying to prove to NFL teams that he can make the transition to OLB if needed, but it wasn’t a productive start for him Monday. Davis isn’t a gifted athlete to begin with, and he really looked stiff when asked to get a bump on tight ends off the line and play in space. He consistently struggled to stay with BYU tight end Dennis Pitta any time the two were matched up, and he didn’t exhibit the type of fluidity needed to make me feel he can play in space as a 3-4 OLB in the NFL.

Safety dance

Oregon safety T.J. Ward isn’t the biggest or most physical athlete playing the position here, but the guy is an instinctive football player who knows how to decipher information and get after the ball. He displayed impressive bend, footwork and overall fluidity in coverage Monday and has the ability to redirect, accelerate and quickly close on the play. He has a tendency to get caught ball-watching and will take himself out of plays at times freelancing, but he looks like a player at the next level.

Kansas safety Darrell Stuckey possesses an ideal build for the position and showcased some natural closing speed once he got out of his breaks. However, he looked stiff in his drop and struggled to keep his feet under him when asked to click and close on the ball. He’s a safety who has the ability to put himself around the action in the pass game, but he doesn’t look like a guy who will be able to make many plays on the ball the next level.

Utah safety Robert Johnson isn’t a prospect you can get a good feel for without pads on because he’s a big hitter who does a good job closing on the ball and creating collisions on contact. However, the one thing that really stood out to me about the 6-2 safety was how thin he was in his lower half. Johnson possesses stick-like calves, and although he displays good pop when launching himself at receivers in the secondary, he doesn’t look like a guy who will be able to generate much power when asked to break down and tackle inside the box.

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gastr
Jan 19, 2010
01:19 PM

Any West measurements available? Thanks...

Mr. Murder
Jan 19, 2010
01:29 PM

When safeties leave their feet to make tackles they had better not miss because there's no shot at recovering to run the ball down.

Weddle's waddle in the playoff game comes to mind....

Paul
Jan 19, 2010
03:23 PM

Hey Wes great stuff! Based on your thoughts how did Rutgers OL Kevin Haslam look in practice?

jshalk123
Jan 19, 2010
06:12 PM

What are your thoughts on Troup DT?

Wes Bunting
Jan 19, 2010
08:55 PM
Wes Bunting

ganstr: NO, only got the east results...really sorry

Paul: Doesn't possesses much power, plays high and is consistently punching from his toes. I don't think the guy has the base to anchor vs. NFL caliber DE.

jsalk123: Troup is tough to move inside and has some power on his bull rush, but is a linear player only who struggles remaining balanced trying to work his way up the field.

Tyler Jorgensen
Jan 20, 2010
01:06 AM

Never had heard of Nathan Overbay then did a quick search knowing his family name locally in WA.

Thought it worth mentioning that Nathan Overbay is closely related to Lyle Overbay the MLB 1B, so there is a fair amount of athleticism in his family even if he isn't an upper tier pure athlete from a measureables perspective.

keith
Jan 20, 2010
10:42 AM

Wes, Most reports I have seen from a number of high profile scouting publications said that Haslam had a standout performance. You have always been down on this kid out of Rutger's for some reason. Even when it came to mid-season reports on games as long as it served your purpose. Your love of his counterpart on the left side, Davis.
Haslam may not be as powerful as AD but has enough for the next level and his technique and game knowledge will prove to be a key. BTW- his hand punch has been a constant this year when scouts talk about positives in his game as well as recovery.

Kurt
Jan 20, 2010
11:52 AM

How are the 3 from the service academies looking (Chris Thomas - AF, Ross Pospisil - Navy, Ali Villanueva - Army)? Thomas was named to several all-bowl teams after his great game against Houston. Any interest even though they may have service commitments for a few years?

Finnegans Wake
Jan 20, 2010
12:11 PM

Wes,

Kurt
Jan 20, 2010
01:55 PM

How are the 3 from the service academies looking (Chris Thomas - AF, Ross Pospisil - Navy, Ali Villanueva - Army)? Thomas was named to several all-bowl teams after his great game against Houston. Any interest even though they may have service commitments for a few years?

Rick
Jan 20, 2010
03:02 PM

Keith, big rutgers fan here, what scouting publications said he had a standout performance, that is great to here about Haslam, can you send post the link, love to read it?

Finnegans Wake
Jan 20, 2010
06:09 PM

Wes, do you think Torrell Troup has the potential to be a 3-4 NT who can start right away, or is he going to need a year of coaching and strength & conditioning? Any projection as to what round?

Rachel
Jan 21, 2010
10:24 AM

Glad to see Quarless is representing the PSU name in practice! Can't wait for the game this weekend!! I read a great article about Quarless, Clark, and Boone on gopsf.com...check it out

Keith
Jan 22, 2010
09:12 AM

Rick- I may not agree with Wes on Haslam but it is his blog so I don't think it would be right for me to link to other reporters. But there is plenty that you can follow on the Rutgers site as well as just google haslam east west shrine practice.
I will say this- Witten of UConn got past him once in practice and a couple of guys only saw the one play and wrote it like it was all day. Guys there watching the lines all day saw that Haslam dominated Witten all day. Haslam also got the best of Miss's Hardy as well.

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May 04, 2010
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Hey Wes great stuff! Based on your thoughts how did Rutgers OL Kevin Haslam look in practice?

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Nathan Overbay had a solid initial practice

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Had that same kind of feeling in the offensive tackle class, after a couple of standouts or upside hopefuls, it's a lot of similar ability into middle rounds.

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Really great coverage there Wes. But what about West results?

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