Favre takes down Packers again

If it wasn't for a dumba$$ decision by a D'end trying to run a kick off back, this game was well on it's way to being a blowout.

Thankgod it happened cos the second half was impressive in the end but the right team deserved to win, thought both QB's played well. Thought both secondary's played average/poorly, which is suprising given the packers much vaunted Dbacks.

Difference again was the O/Dlines. Vikings have a good/above average Oline, Packers have an awful Oline. Vikings have an incredible Dline, Packers pass rush/new system either hasn't clicked yet, doesn't have the right personnel for 3-4 or just aren't very good.

Harvin is impressive. Favre has ice in his veins. Packers have alot of offseason holes to fill. Vikings need home field in the playoffs to make a serious run for the SB.

As far as I'm concerned, BF is a turd. I really believed he was the real deal... a true team player. The guy who would never play for another team, a Packer for life... he's a phony, and it's all about him.

Was at the game, and as much as it pains me to say it, the Vikings are clearly the better team. They have Adrian Peterson, we have Ryan Grant. They have Percy Harvin returning kickoffs, we have Ahman Green returning kickoffs. Their offensive line is very good, ours is terrible. Their linebackers are a lot better than ours too. And Favre was Favre, as you would probably expect. Rodgers played very well in the second half, but couldn't do anything in the first half. And when Rodgers had a chance to put the Packers ahead late, he threw deep to a double-covered Driver when he had Jennings wide open on the sideline. I give the Packers credit for battling back and making it a ballgame, but the bottom line is that the Packers do not measure up against the better teams in the NFL, and I'm not sure that will change much as the year goes on. This was a statement game for the Packers, and they didn't get it done. Very disappointing.

IF Favre had only gone with some dignity then I don't think as many people in GB would have so hard feelings. The Pack had no choice but to drop Favre with Rodgers being to end of the contract and on the verge of spliting. They would have been left with no QBs one year later.

Favre could have split and said I understand you don't want me let's just break it off. Instead he traded his respect in GB and dignity for 25 million and a chance to rub it in.

I think the only good thing to come out of this game for Packers fans is that this should finally put McCarthy and Thompson on the hot seat in GB. How does a team come out so flat so often in games that matter? What about the total lack of discipline? The overall lack of depth? 37 sacks in only seven games?? That's unacceptable for an entire year much less seven games. Sad but true.

On the other hand, good game Vikes and congrats to Brett!

Hey VinnyMac need a tissue? You Packer fans are such d-bags. The guy gives his all for 16 years and you treat him like yesterday's trash. You Packer fans deserve the hell which TT and MM put you in.

Sean in GB summed it up well: "the Packers do not measure up against the better teams in the NFL, and I'm not sure that will change much as the year goes on".

I've been thinking about the Packers and why the team can decieve many pundits into thinking they are better than they really are. Against lesser opponents the Packers really shine. Their weaknesses aren't exploited and their passing attack can carve teams up. Their defensive scheme is enough to limit lower echelon teams (even if the personnel isn't a fit). They appear to be as good, or better, than anyone if you compare their results against the bottom feeders.

But, against quality teams, they will struggle. Good opponents will expose the offensive line and force Rodgers to play under pressure while shutting down the running game. These teams can exploit the Packers defensive personnel.

Looking at GB's remaining schedule, they might be in for some tough times... I'm not saying that a wild card is unachievable, but they will have to improve for it to happen.

Just remember Vinniemac and all the rst of you.... the Packers gave up on Bret Farve.

Mike McCarthy has claimed the throne of worst coach in the NFL

IF Favre had only gone with some dignity then I don't think as many people in GB would have so hard feelings. The Pack had no choice but to drop Favre with Rodgers being to end of the contract and on the verge of spliting. They would have been left with no QBs one year later.

Favre could have split and said I understand you don't want me let's just break it off. Instead he traded his respect in GB and dignity for 25 million and a chance to rub it in.
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Oh, please. Money had nothing to do with it. If all he wanted was money, Favre would have taken their "merchandising" bribe and stayed retired. What was it, $20 million for no real work? Instead, he puts his body on the line week in and week out.

As for the "chance to rub it in", come on. He didn't join the Vikings just to get a chance to beat the Packers. They play the system he's played his entire career. The offensive coordinator was one of his former coaches. The Vikings had all of the pieces (except for QB) that they need to make a playoff run. Favre doesn't have the time to sign on with a rebuilding team. That would have been pointless for both sides. The Vikings were simply the perfect fit for Favre.

Oh, and the Packers did have an option. Rodgers contract lasted through this year I believe. They could have stuck with Favre for one final year, with the understanding that it would be Favre's last chance to make a run at the SB with GB. I doubt Rodgers would have bolted once they handed the team over to him. I'm sorry, but I really don't see how Favre traded his respect and dignity away for anything. He tried to come back and compete for the starting spot, but was traded away. He wanted to play for the Packers, but he wasn't wanted. What was he supposed to do, go home and pout just to avoid hurting your delicate sensibilities? In the end, the story is very simple. Favre is a competitive athlete who wanted to keep playing. The Packers didn't want him. The Vikings did. So, now he's a Viking. End of story. No, wait a minute, he just beat the team he wasn't good enough to play for anymore two times in a month...the second time on their home field. Now, end of story.

For everyone saying Favre wasn't good enough to play for the Packers: can someone point me to where this was said/expressed? He wasn't let go for that fact, get real. It was never a matter of Favre not being able to play the game, I don't think anyone on the Packers questioned his ability. It was about the future and the timing of the situation. Sure it sucks as a die hard Packers fan to swallow the two losses we've taken in the last month.

The Vikings are the better team than us right now, but people need to get a clue if they watched that game yesterday and think Green Bay made the wrong decision in going with Rodgers. The guy played his heart out and received very little help from his teammates and coaching staff. The only way McCarthy should be back next season is if he can somehow pull a playoff win off in Minnesota, which I would say is far from possible at this point in the season. I still believe Green Bay has the pieces to win games vs. Minnesota. Our coaching staff has handicapped us with lack of preparation, intensity (how can a team come out so flat in a game with such huge implications; both for the franchise and the season) and piss poor playcalling. The special teams play was horrendus. Continuing to kick to Harvin was an epic mistake, I was yelling at the TV everytime they did it.

Packers need a new RB, coaching staff and front office with a plan and vision... not one who scraps zone blocking schemes and switches defences.. there has a to be a long term plan in mind for the players, staff and schemes to win championships. I think we have good players right now, and I believe in Rodgers (still growing as a player), our wideouts, finley, matthews, and a number of others but changes need to be made. This loss wasn't about Favre - as a Packer fan I am more upset about our organization being exposed for their flakey sense of direction and being stuck in their ways. I commend the decision to commit to Rodgers, but that commitment needs to flow throughout the entire organization, not just at one position... what we need is a plan to get a super bowl, not just a plan to keep one QB and let everything else change season to season.