I'd love to see the Packers grab him. I was happy to see his slow 40 time at the combine, hoping it'd allow him to fall to our second round pick. Another dynamic playmaker on offence like him would be amazing, a perfect complement to Grant's downhill style. Not to mention the special teams help we so desperately need.

If the Packers draft this slow midget in the 2nd round it would be a McClusterf$%k.

This guy is NOT Deshaun Jackson.

I don't care what his 40 time at the combine was. In pads, he's fast.

If we get either one of these guys, I will be ecstatic. But if Spiller is on the board at 23 you take him and let McCluster go elsewhere.

Both players will be special.

I'm all for the Spiller (1) and OL later (2-3) strategy.

If Bulaga is there at 23, you have to take him over Spiller. Doesn't matter how fast or slow these two running backs are, if Rodgers is getting blasted all the time, they'll never have a chance to touch the ball.

Sorry for the triple post, don't know why it did that. My 2cents: He's a little dynamo, no doubt, but with such deep corner class I would rather target a kid a la Devin McCourtney that can help in the return game and play DB. McCluster is one-dimensional as a returner and one-dimensional players are luxuray picks. Packers have too many OL, OLB and CB needs to take luxury picks in the first 2 rounds.

They would never use him as a WR or a RB. This is the Packers.

Johnnyy Z - The Packers receivers were 2nd in the league with dropped passes last year at 50, only behined the KC Cheifs. McCluster had the smallest hands at the combine for his position and couldn't consistantly catch the ball. So, you want a guy that will just drop more balls and is probably the 6th best receiving option on the field. Also, he can hardly afford to take a direct hit at less than 170 lbs. I'm not seeing it, don't take luxury picks prior to the 3rd round.

We don't need a RB high in the draft. Take a 5th rd flyer on somebody? Sure. But we NEED a LT, OLB and CB (in that order). Heck, even two CBs would be nice, along with maybe a safety, since Atari's ankle just didn't seem to heal right.

But Wes pushing not only a RB in the 1st, but also another high-round RB if that one doesn't work out is like Jerry Lundegaard pushing the True Coat in Fargo. "Well, I talked to the boss, and... he ain't never done this before... He says I can knock a couple hundred bucks off that True Coat."

TT wil draft who he has rated as the "best player available" If CJ Spiller is there and is the highest guy on the draft board then thats who he will pick.


Bulaga will be gone by the time 23 comes around

Cliffy is one mis-step away from being permanently done and so far the Pack has not made a move to bring Tauscher back. RB's and Return men are relatively a dime a dozen (see history of talent that Micke Shanahan always seems to find in that area) so compared to O-Linemen TT has to pass up the "eye candy" and take what is in the best long term interests of his team and his quarterback.

Cliffy is one mis-step away from being permanently done and so far the Pack has not made a move to bring Tauscher back. RB's and Return men are relatively a dime a dozen (see history of talent that Micke Shanahan always seems to find in that area) so compared to O-Linemen TT has to pass up the "eye candy" and take what is in the best long term interests of his team and his quarterback.

But if we draft a return guy then I won't get to watch Jordy Nelson take a kick off and run (jog) straight ahead into the pile, stop and curl into the fetal position right before he gets hit and brought down at the 18 yard line!!!

But if we draft a return guy then I won't get to watch Jordy Nelson take a kick off and run (jog) straight ahead into the pile, stop and curl into the fetal position right before he gets hit and brought down at the 18 yard line!!!

The Pack needs to address their weaknesses with premium money picks (1st,2nd,3rd Rd). I do agree that they need to upgrade their speed around the corner on the ground but if the defense is always on the field and the offense not able to establish drives no running back is going to be on the field enough to warrent those premium money picks.
On defense our cornerback has to get his hands on the wide receiver and hope the pressure gets to the quarterback before 5 seconds elapses.
So my draft board is set up, barring any inside information only Packer brass knows,
they go for
#1)Offensive line to estabish ball control, take the OT
then a #2) Pass rushing defensive lineman/Backer, DE/OLB
Then #3) add a Turn the Edge Player, RB or good pass catching wide out who can run
Defensive Backs, unless you getting top 10 talent it's a guess what you'll get soI don't think Mays is a good fit.
Special Teams at Pick 23 wouldn't be a bad idea so a returner punt or kick-off man without fumbles.
And last if not least, a quality, pro ready ,punter. It will help an already good defense with field position and help the offense. One Guy. A PUNTER!!

Kurt name implies IDGAF...
that is sweet! LMFAO

Depends on who is available. McCluster is on my short list of guys I want in the second round though, and Spiller is on my first round list but he is more of a luxury than anything. The Packers could go many ways, I personally want to see them go defense in the first two rounds. Earl Thomas, Brandon Graham, Jerry Hughes, Wilson.. The only OL I would take with the Packers first round pick will be gone(Okung and Bulaga..I would think about Charles Brown but I think there will be better available. I want to stay as far away from Davis and Campbell as possible, unless they are at our second round pick). A guard is not first round worthy when we have Sitton, Colledge, Lang, and Spitz. Pouncey would be an immediate upgrade over Wells I think though. Everyone is concentrating on the OL and they will all be disappointed. No one we draft this year is going to start over a healthy Clifton.

Rodger Saffold is the guy I really want in round two though. I want to concentrate on the pass rush or secondary in the first.

But if we draft a return guy then I won't get to watch Jordy Nelson take a kick off and run (jog) straight ahead into the pile, stop and curl into the fetal position right before he gets hit and brought down at the 18 yard line!!!

Not sure why my comment keeps popping up but my apologies if it was my fault...

If Spiller isn't there for GB in the 1st round & if there's not a T available on their draft board at that spot where GB picks, Ted needs to get a CB. GB does need better OL but GB doesn't much of a problem scoring points at all. So, I really don't think grabbing an undersized RB in the 2nd round is a priority. The OL & DB's need to get better as well as finding another pass rusher. Also, the running game would be better just by calling more running plays. The avg. yds. per carry for 2009 for rushing is 4.3 & that's above average. Coach needs to stop throwing the ball 35-40x a game, that's the main thing,although I agree that Ted needs to draft a RB with more speed.

Why do the Packers insist on giving our great QBs (during the TT era) weak to mediocre O-lines? Rodgers are Favre are elite Qbs and they do a poor job of giving them time to shine. A sad statement to all Packer fans is that Favre had TONS of time to run a play this year with a good O-Line. How did Rodgers do? Pretty well considering but what if he had more time with a good line? We have the talent everywhere else except DB depth. Go and get 3-4 O-lineman. Hell get 6 and 2 DBs. Clift and Tausch were good but now they are past their prime. Spitz, Colledge, etc get beat WAY TOO often.

I just don't get the hype for McCluster. He ran slower than Tebow, plus he is very small. He didn't look all that quick to me either when I saw him play. Maybe I'm dead wrong, but I just don't see NFL talent there. Taking him high in the draft should be a career ender for a GM.

Sirscorps, that type of thinking leads to picks like Ahmad Carroll. You can't go in the draft saying you HAVE to get a certain position in round one. What if there are better players available? Haden and Wilson would be the only CB's I would take in round one and Wilson is below a lot of guys that should be available. Would you take Perrish Cox before guys like Graham, Hughes, Kindle, Iupati, Pouncey, and Best just because he plays a certain position?

If Spiller isn't there for GB in the 1st round & if there's not a T available on their draft board at that spot where GB picks, Ted needs to get a CB. GB does need better OL but GB doesn't much of a problem scoring points at all. So, I really don't think grabbing an undersized RB in the 2nd round is a priority. The OL & DB's need to get better as well as finding another pass rusher. Also, the running game would be better just by calling more running plays. The avg. yds. per carry for 2009 for rushing is 4.3 & that's above average. Coach needs to stop throwing the ball 35-40x a game, that's the main thing,although I agree that Ted needs to draft a RB with more speed.

I really hope Spiller is there for the Packers at #23...he might be a little bit of a "luxury," but you can never have too many explosive players on offense, and we really need a return threat in the worst way. If it were based on need, I'd say they need a pass-rushing OLB opposite Clay Matthews, a young LT to groom for a year behind Clifton, a cornerback (which I think they can get in rounds 2-3), and a safety to challenge Bigby (maybe a 2nd-tier free agent).

McCluster is tiny, but could be another Darren Sproles. I'm concerned he didn't return kicks much in college, but his terrific athletic ability makes him worth taking in the 2nd round.

I'm guessing that the Bears signing of Julius Peppers makes O-line more of an urgency.

The Bears are an example of a team that looks at the mid to late rounds of every draft for players, especially WRs and DBs, who will have to contribute on special teams to make the team. If you put an emphasis on it, and if you have a coach like Dave Toub, you will have dynamic special teams. In fact we have three guys, Hester, Manning and Knox, who all come up big in the return game.

Devin Hester was a prime reason the Bears played in the SB in 06. The field position, along with a good D, made up for a lot of deficiencies on offense. And the Bears cover well too on STs, so their advantage in field position is always a strenght.

Now if we can just cut down on those picks, and get a healthier Tommie Harris, we can be in the think of if with GB and Minny. Should be an interesting year.

If Spiller falls to #23 the Pack should draft him the way they drafted Aaron Rodgers at #24. It's an opportunity to bring in the best talent irrespective of team need.

If this actually happens, OT Jared Veldheer would be a really interesting pick in the 2nd round. I think this kid could learn from Clifton and ultimately take over at LT.

Carter is closer to playing the style of a Woodson than he is of playing a Harris. He can play safety as well. He's a solid kick returner. Get him in round one for where they are at, and as someobody notes(Pete), move up on someone like the Indiana tackle Saffold in round two.

Or take Saffold where you are at and have the other pick up on Carter. Corners are not likely to go early, waiting may miss your man. this you invert the picks counting on OL depth in the draft to have your player in range to move upon.

Chris - on the global issue, we don't disagree. It's crazy to take a returner on day one.

Matt,
As a former Packer, I'd love to see an honest predraft analysis of what they need to do, the week before. Also as a fellow Iowa Alumni, how do you honestly feel the Hawk's will do in 2010? PS one of my best friend's is a former Hawk who was in the Steeler's camp. So no BS answers!

The supposed deep depth in this draft doesn't exist when you start looking at left tackle prospects, in my opinion. In order to get a really good shot at real good potential, my personal opinion is that any one of these five should be "first consideration", and there is no reach for need. If any are still there at 23, Ted should draft them.

Okung, Campbell, Bulaga, Williams or Brown. Note that Davis is not on that list. Also note that Iupati is not on that list. Iupati would have to be heavily weighed with whatever BPA is still there at 23. Davis has been over-rated, imo---he makes me too nervous to put in the "semi-automatic (now) five".

Trent Williams would be perfect, imo....factoring in the Cliffy signing, our situation at RT, Lang's displayed versatility, etc. I am aware of many saying he's a RT, but I see very real LT potential, and the versatility looks extremely favorable.

I don't like Brown's playing weight vs. combine weight. He MIGHT be a "perfect fit" for GB's ZBS at LT, but I think ALL Packer fans should have MAJOR alarm bells going off inside every time they read the phrase "perfect fit for ZBS." from the scouts. It should read, "too light in the trou to go hat-on-hat." (Semi-jest/frustration, there)

I am convinced that we have to take one of them if there in round one. I see many options at our other "need" positions after the 1st round. Yes, I do know how Ted rolls, BPA-wise. We have to protect Aaron's blind-side. Cliffy is geezin'. We all know it. He is a safety net, and we need this addressed now, not later.

Agree with meateater.

McCluster is one of most overrated prospects in this draft. I just don't understand where all the hype came from. Senior Bowl? Really?

Prospects that rise or fall more than a round or two during this "off-season" should alway have question marks. McCluster wasn't and never should have been on any draft board as a 2nd rounder before the Senior Bowl. And nothing this off-season should be pushing him into a premium draft slot like that.

I know Chris Johnson is the newest and greatest thing in the NFL, but that doesn't mean every team should overspend and overdraft looking for the next one. Really bad GM's and really bad analysts are "followers". The truly great ones don't try to find the "next" anyone, but rather judge every player on their own merits and fit into what teams will do.

A field-stretching, check-down-catching, do-it-all RB like Spiller will give Rodgers time.

Sorry Guys You Build in the trenches with the 1st Rd pick.... AWAYS! Big guys just to hard to find. Running backs, Wide Receivers, special teams are a dime a dozen. Perfect example. R.Bush VS. M. Williams.
Gotta get that LT position filled NOW.

"Perfect example. R.Bush VS. M. Williams.
Gotta get that LT position filled NOW."

I'll see you that:

#7 - A. Peterson VS. #4 - Gaines Adams, #5 - Levi Brown (2007).

And raise you:

#24 - Chris Johnson VS. #1 - Jake Long, #2 - Chris Long, #5 - Glenn Dorsey, #6 - Vernon Gholston, #8 - Derrick Harvey, #14 - Chris Williams, #15 - Brandon Albert, #17 - Gosder Cherilus, #21 - Sam Baker (2008)

Those drafts are redone, Peterson goes 1, and Johson is in the top 3, respectively.

The point is, REGARDLESS of need, or how valuable a position is to a team, you take the best player available, EVERY time.

good reporting