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Tavern talk: What QBs will be left standing?

A rundown of starters who probably won’t last. Michael Lombardi

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Here’s the question of the day: What quarterbacks who are currently starting now will be starting at the end of the year? Sure, it’s easy to say goodbye to Jake Delhomme after his recent bad outing, but who else might be in danger? Here’s a list of opening day starters in the NFL:

Arz   Kurt Warner: Looked rusty in Week 1; needs to show he’s still great Sunday.

Atl   Matt Ryan: Every time I watch him, I think he’s a blue. Every time.

Joe FlaccoAPJoe Flacco

Bal   Joe Flacco: Another week like the last one and he’s a blue.

Buf   Trent Edwards: I strongly doubt he’ll be left standing at the end of the season.

Car   Jake Delhomme: Not many options in Carolina. If things don’t improve before October, he won’t celebrate Halloween as the starter.

Chi   Jay Cutler: Bad first outing, but he’s good. He just needs to play within the system, not force the system.

Cin   Carson Palmer: Something’s wrong. The Bengals’ offense isn’t moving well -- is Palmer really 100-percent healthy?

Cle   Brady Quinn: It took all of camp to make him the starter, so anything is possible.

Dal   Tony Romo: No chance unless an unforeseen injury happens.

Den   Kyle Orton: He has to play better than last week. He was injured so that might be the reason.

Det   Matthew Stafford: Going to get better every week. All he needs to do is stay healthy.

Aaron RodgersAPAaron Rodgers

GB   Aaron Rodgers: Going to be great this year.

Hou   Matt Schaub: Sorry, Matt “I love me some Texans” Bowen. Schaub won’t stay healthy.

Ind   Peyton Manning: Never happen.

Jax   David Garrard: Played well in Week 1, but with two rookie tackles, he’ll take some hits.

K.C.   Matt Cassell: Already missed Week 1, and with this offensive line, the injury bug might be a problem.

Mia   Chad Pennington: Chad Henne is breathing down his neck. Might happen sooner than later.

Min   Brett Favre: Four sacks in Week 1 to a team that only had 17 all of last year. He’s 39 years old. You do the math.

N.E.   Tom Brady: No chance.

N.O.   Drew Brees: Another no chance. By the way, he’s fun to watch even if you’re not a Saints fan.

NYG   Eli Manning: Another no chance.

NYJ   Mark Sanchez: Like Stafford, he’s going to be very good with each rep. Must stay healthy all year.

Oak   JaMarcus Russell: He’ll take some hits and might get beat up, but he’s going to be given every chance to be the main guy.

Donovan McNabbAPDonovan McNabb

Phil   Donovan McNabb: Unless too many injuries get him down.

Pit   Ben Roethlisberger: Big Ben takes some sacks, and if he’s not there at the end, the Steelers won’t be in the hunt.

SD   Philip Rivers: Injury only.

Sea   Matt Hasselbeck: Injury only, and that’s very possible based on his durability.

SF   Shaun Hill: Wild card here. He doesn’t always look good, but he can run this very basic offense.

Stl   Marc Bulger: With the first selection in the 2010 draft, the St. Louis Rams select…Sam Bradford.

TB   Byron Leftwich: I think he’s keeping the seat warm for Josh Freeman, which the rookie might occupy by Week 10.

Ten   Kerry Collins: Unless he gets hurt. He played well the other night in one of his better games. Looks much quicker.

Wash   Jason Campbell: No chance if the Skins don’t find a way to make big plays.

Who do you guys think?

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Andrew
Sep 16, 2009
05:38 PM

Mike, pick a criteria and stick to it.

Are you evaluating on performance on the field or quality of protection?

Rodgers RT is going to get him killed if they dont get that fixed. When did you start confusing past performance as a measure of feature results.

I hope your not looking after your own investments

Mr.Murder
Sep 16, 2009
05:43 PM

Will there be any WR left for throwing to in Oakland? Russel leads guys into hits their share of hard hits, staring those players down.

British
Sep 16, 2009
05:51 PM

I'm not sure this all makes sense. Are you saying Campbell will or wont be left standing?

e.g.

Tom Brady: No chance.

Jason Campbell: No chance if the Skins don’t find a way to make big plays.

Eric Green
Sep 16, 2009
05:51 PM

Why is Hasselbeck always considered injury prone when his only major injury to my knowledge was last year?

I feel sorry for the Falcon's third WR, as Tony will be taking all of his receptions on his was to another Pro bowl.

JayR
Sep 16, 2009
06:18 PM

Mike,

Maybe it’s because of several years of watching Jake Plummer and Jay Culter, both of whom have tremendous athleticism in the pocket and the ability to get out of the pocket in a hurry, but Kyle Orton looks really stiff and heavy legged in the pocket.

I believe Orton's starting O-line is among the top 7 or 8 in the league, but I think there is a very good chance because of his inability to escape severe pressure in the pocket he has a good chance of being injured. So far he shown to be brave in the pocket, but he’s the kind of QB that is susceptible of taking really big hits (reminiscent of Roethlisberger). And he really doesn’t have the body to withstand that much punishment. My bet is that Chris Simms plays at least 4 games for the Broncos.

Dan
Sep 16, 2009
07:31 PM

I'm so confused by this article. The question is what QBs will be starting at the end of the year but Brady and Brees get no chance. Obviously supposed to be the other way around. Were you late for an appointment before writing this article?

meateater
Sep 16, 2009
07:35 PM

British, I had the same confusion. He must mean that Campbell will not be the starter unless they make some big plays. He is in his contract year, they spent the off season trying to replace him, and he looked dreadful in the opener. Head coach Jim Zorn might not be standing either, as the local media is full of criticism of his play calling and general air of cluelessness. The one thing the Skins have going for them is a ridiculously easy schedule, but in the recent past, they've shown a knack for playing down to their opponent's level.

OrangeCrushDefence
Sep 16, 2009
08:17 PM

Have to agree about Aaron Rodgers, he's gonna go down if that O-lineman doesn't get better or replaced by someone that will block, #78 I believe was his #.

Marc Bulger, Carson Plamer won't last.

In trouble and might get injured: Warner, Roethlisberger and Leftwich.

WC
Sep 16, 2009
08:55 PM

Warner's the guy to watch. Warner started 58 out of 112 possible games from 2002-2008, is 38, his legs call to mind Sean Casey (the Cincinnati Red), and must play at a high level (i.e. can't get by managing like Favre or Collins).

Yeah, he can be great, but has 91 turnovers to 84 TDs over those 58 games.

Also, Denver's gotta get a big arm back there to fully utilize Eddie Royal. Only had 4 balls thrown his way, not a good sign. Royal and Cutler were a great fit, I think he'll miss Jay more than Marshall.

Nate
Sep 16, 2009
09:44 PM

Michael,
If you're going to write this stuff, make it clear what the heck you're talking about. "British" made the correct response already--how does your description of Campbell make sense in light of the Brady, Manning, Brees comments. Half of the rest of it is about as enlightening.

MikeK
Sep 16, 2009
09:48 PM

Who would the Bills replace Edwards with? JP Losman is in the UFL now, it seems like the Bills have hitched their wagons to the former Stanford Cardinal.

Cody
Sep 16, 2009
10:13 PM

this article makes no sense???

thecrow110570
Sep 16, 2009
10:41 PM

Do you think Trent Edwards won't be standing because of his o-line or you don't think he's good enough or you were just confused about this article or were you trying to figure out why the NFL network hired that annoying blond to host their Sunday kick-off show? Please explain!!

Sean T
Sep 17, 2009
12:23 AM

I think your wrong on Trent Edwards. This kid has put in the work to become great. It's just now if he can raise the level of play of his teammates enough to starting winning big games. Come on Mike, He's a Bill Walsh guy. A Stanford man, who thought very highly of Trent Edwards when he entered the 2007 NFL Draft. Edwards has an injury history, but he'll do everything in his power to be there at the end, and I think by the end of the year the kid will be a legit NFL Caliber QB.

nate
Sep 17, 2009
02:14 AM

haha. dan was kind of funny--"late for an appointment."

it's ok, though, mike. i got your back. i knew what you were talking about.
my impression is that these judgements were just the first thing that popped into your mind. and that's cool with me.

EffTwoFiddy
Sep 17, 2009
02:56 AM

Will I read that again? No chance. I love the Tavern, but this ain't it...

Matt
Sep 17, 2009
03:51 AM

Carson Palmer seem's fine to me. Not sure what your talking about Mike. Love the insight, but your wrong on that one.

Frank Desmond
Sep 17, 2009
05:55 AM

Your writing gets worse by the day. I am finding it harder and harder to come back to this site. I have been on the computer reading for three hours and finally came here. Tomorrow I probably will not.

Octavio Ventouras
Sep 17, 2009
06:15 AM

Your Northeast bias shows clearly in this article. Why point out Romo will start "unless an unforeseen injury happens?" I noticed you didn't include that qualifier with any of the quarterbacks of the teams you don't dislike. A wise man once told me you have to evaluate the evaluator and to these eyes your personal feelings about the Cowboys are clouding your otherwise impeccable judgments. Otherwise you would have included that qualifier about "unforeseen injury" on ALL the Blue chippers )especially considering that some of them took a LOT more hits and sacks last week). Not just the one with the HIGHEST career passer rating and the HIGHEST pass per attempt of any quarterback since Otto Graham.

mcgarnicle79
Sep 17, 2009
08:50 AM

I actually thought Matt Ryan could have played much better. There were a lot of deep throws open that he missed. It should have been a blow out.

What's wrong with Palmer is that he has an overpaid wideout in Coles that dropped four passes. Palmer completed 21 of 33 for 247 yards (11 yard avg @ 64%). His second INT was an end of game Hail Mary. His line could/should have been 25 of 33 which is a 75% completion percentage. That's pretty good.

Rogers looks to be a great QB when healthy, but people are acting like he's ironman after one full season starting. This guy was very injury prone before last year and I agree that the line play has to be better for him to play all year.

Schaub's line play was horrible, he didn't play well and the play calling was suspect, but they were slow out of the gate offensively last year too.

Garrad is a dead man walking. Management is already talking about drafting Tebow.

Not a very good article Lombardi. Very obvious statements when they make sense. If Roethlisberger goes down the steelers won't win? You mean Batch or Dixon don't have your confidence? You can say the same for McNabb, Brady, Manning (both), Brees, Romo, Palmer, Cutler, Rodgers, Ryan, Hasselbeck, Rivers, Edwards and Flacco....which makes almost any starting QB injury statement pointless. Yes, most teams a bad when the starting QB goes down. Funny how that works.

That's Your Basic
Sep 17, 2009
09:03 AM

I think you're wrong about Edwards - the Bills have put their eggs in that basket for the foreseeable future. Same with the Browns and Quinn, but that is more of Mangini's pride than lack of options.

Also, as mentioned, the Campbell reference doesn't hold weight in light of previous comments about Manning, Brady, etc.

And with Favre - they bring him in with all that baggage and a monster contract just to bench him after a bad outing? Not so fast my friend.

Lastly, I know I'm a bit bias, but I am curious as to your take on Philadelphia - split time with Garcia & Kolb this week, Vick & Garcia in Week 3, and let McNabb come back fully healthy after the BYE week before division play starts?

JP
Sep 17, 2009
02:43 PM

I think Lombardi was a bit sauced up as he wrote this one.

Bill
Sep 17, 2009
04:00 PM

Do you even read what you write? Usually, your articles are interesting but this is the worst written one ever. Clearly something is wrong when you write Campbell has no chance & then you say the same for Brady, Peyton, Eli, etc. Geez, proofread your work next time.

Sloan
Sep 17, 2009
08:49 PM

Mike, why don't you rewrite this article to make it a little clearer for those of us who are too stupid to figure out what your question is?

TC
Sep 18, 2009
09:27 AM

Another half-baked writing effort. Mike, when you're on you're but you have a tendency to "take plays off" as you did with this article. You have a great upside but need more of a "motor".

D. Ling
Sep 18, 2009
10:35 AM

Is the Bengals offense not moving because Palmer is not 100% healthy or because he's simply not the player many experts think he is/can be? To me Palmer was a flash in the pan, got hurt, and has never recovered.

g-1
Sep 19, 2009
08:54 PM

Exactly what i would expect in an article from a former Raiders front office employee. Changing the tone of the article throughout and leaving most readers with mass confusion.

Also, mentioning Favre's age but apparently not considering Warner or Collins ages. Last i checked, Warner and Collins have missed more time to injury in the past than Favre has.

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