Where is Orton's extension?

Don't see Denver giving an extension until Orton takes this team to the playoffs. Once they clinch a spot, then he gets paid.

I always thought Orton recieved a raw deal from the Chicago fans, and I think its about time he gets his due. The guy is a winner END OF STORY. While he was the QB of the Bears, he never really had a great offensive line or great playmakers. Now he has both & he is flourishing. I'm glad for him, and yes he does need to get an extention. As the weeks go by, I can't help but think that the Broncos fleeced the Bears in that trade.

That touchdown throw to Sheffler wasn't an aberration...... I make those throws all the time.

Truthfully, I was throwing the ball away, but kind of underthrew it (like I did Hester all last year).

It's not a fleecing. The Bears knew exactly what they had with Orton - a QB who would deliver a win 2 out of 3 times you put him on the field. I've said it a million times. Kyle Orton = Drew Brees. Other than the fact that the teams Brees has played on have, up to this year, had twice the offensive talent that any of Orton's Bears teams had (with consequent better stats), and the difference in OPPORTUNITY thus far in their careers, I defy anyone to identify any substantive differences in what they bring to the table as a QB.

I hope all of the NFP columnists who are cheerleading for Cutler's new contract stick to their guns when it becomes apparent that this was a horrible mistake. So far he's won one game and lost two...I don't see this ratio improving. The more Cutler is rewarded for making terrible decisions, the harder it will be ti turn him around.

The Bears will regret this contract. They will regret the trade. Rex Grossman led the Bears to the Super Bowl, remember that.

LOL @ Rex Grossman "led the Bears to the Super Bowl". The Bears went to the Super Bowl despite Rex Grossman. When they got there he crapped down his leg again.

Orton is NOT Drew Brees. As a Purdue Alum I can tell you many people feel this way. Orton is taller and might have a stronger arm (even that is debatable), but Brees is more accurate, and throws a deep ball a hell of a lot better. Orton could not win big games at Purdue and the time they were ranked #5 and he was up for the Heisman he laid an egg and fumbled the game away to Wisconsin. Brees was a finalist for the Heisman, led Purdue to it's first Rose Bowl in 30 years. Despite Orton having better weapons and a better overall team he couldn't do that.

Orton is doing well in Denver, but lets put things in perspective here. This is/was a long term trade for the Bears. To compare the two after 6 games is completely ridiculous. They are different situations, teams, systems, etc...Cutler is being asked to be the franchise QB they thought they'd get and he is doing that. He is their only offense at the moment and anyone who has watched him play can see he is the only reason the Bears are even in position to win games. Add to that the pressure that came with the trade and I'd say he's doing pretty well. Orton is a completely different situation. He's not being asked to do as much. Denver has a better o-line, running game, WRs and defense. He's doing what is being asked him.

If the trade never happened the Bears would probably be 1-4 and Denver would be legit super bowl contenders, instead of people still doubting them. This debate about Orton's win/loss record to say he's a good QB is silly. Lets talk again in 4-5 years and see where both these QBs are and how their teams are doing. All this chatter after 6 games in a season is nonsense.

So far Orton has looked good if not excellent, but after that dreadful preseason and the spotty play last year, I just don't think there's enough history yet...I'd waffle a little bit if I was the GM and would like to see a few more games out of him yet. It is Matt Cassel all over...high risk, high reward. If Orton pans out and those 1st picks turn into solid players, Denver will come out looking pretty good.

Smooth;

I'll take that bet. Kyle Orton's winning percentage vs. Jay Cutler's winning percentage after week six of the 2014 season. Name the amount.

Scot, win % doesn't measure how good a QB is what I was saying. Are you going to tell me that Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Marino because he's won a Super Bowl?

That's the point. Football is not an individual sport. Or did Orton score two special teams TDs the other night? Is orton playing defense for the Broncos as well? No he's not. Orton won 10 games as a rookie playing like rookie. So bad that he was benched and replaced by Rex Grossman. But hey "he won" 10 games so he should be a good QB. Um...no.

If you want to compare quarterback numbers down the line I'll take the bet any day of the week.

Smooth - quit hating on me because people who only watch the highlights think I'm awesome.
I am awesome! I drive a Prius and my passes are so good that no one can intercept them. They just burn right through the defenders hands so my guys can catch touchdowns.

I think Orton's realization that football is a team sport, and Cutler's inability to grasp that, is ultimately why they are wearing opposite uniforms this year, Smooth. All McSixenO had to do is publicly declare Cutler the most important and untouchable player on the team, and the Cassell stuff would have been forgotten. Denver refused to blink, so here we are.

So far in his pro career, Cutler has played really pretty with marginal effect. So far in his pro career, Orton has played team football-- a little too risk free for some's taste, obviously-- with great effect. So I don't really get your argument at all. I'll take W/L over stats any day.

People tend to underrate how tough Cutler's decision making was on the Denver defense these last two years. They were bad enough on their own, but Cutler added a degree of difficulty to the mix. I think Bears fans are going to start seeing that playing out in Chicago over this season, too, especially since he has been so quickly rewarded for not changing a thing in his game.

As for Orton, he's just getting better and better, and he'll get paid. He's just probably focused on bigger things right now-- like winning.

Could not agree more with Smooth... Orton has far better talent around him and, if not for a fluke in week 1 and Brady's poor play against the Pats, Broncos are 4-2, and not looking quite so good. Also, Royal had 2 TD returns for the Broncos that kept them in Monday's game. And Orton has probably the best WR tandem in the NFL, has an excellent o-line, has a better running game, and has Mike Nolan coaching lights-out as the d-coordinator. The Chiefs hung 20 on Dallas with far inferior talent while the Broncos scored 17 at home, no less, against the Boys. I'll bet the house that Orton is not the Broncos starting QB in two years. Down a TD late in the 4th and starting at the 20 and I'll take Cutler any day over Orton.

Could not agree more with Smooth... Orton has far better talent around him and, if not for a fluke in week 1 and Brady's poor play against the Pats, Broncos are 4-2, and not looking quite so good. Also, Royal had 2 TD returns for the Broncos that kept them in Monday's game. And Orton has probably the best WR tandem in the NFL, has an excellent o-line, has a better running game, and has Mike Nolan coaching lights-out as the d-coordinator. The Chiefs hung 20 on Dallas with far inferior talent while the Broncos scored 17 at home, no less, against the Boys. I'll bet the house that Orton is not the Broncos starting QB in two years. Down a TD late in the 4th and starting at the 20 and I'll take Cutler any day over Orton.

pmars;

Don't know how many Broncos games you ever watched, but "down a TD late in the 4th and starting at the 20" is the exact situation where Cutler (thus far in his career), will come on the field and throw a pick. The Atlanta game is the perfect example. His last throw in the end zone was HORRIBLE.

Why does Orton have to apologize for the fact that Brady sucked a$$ against the Broncos. Sure, Royal returned a couple against SD, but whos to say the Bronco's wouldn't have scored on those drives when the ball was being GIVEN to them. We're not rewriting history, here. The fact of the matter is that Cutler had the exact same talent around him last year, but couldn't control ball games or get wins. I'll take Orton.

Scot,
The Atlanta game is more an example of Cutler trying to do too much because he's all they really have on offense. Granted he makes his share of mistakes, but, again, no way the Bears are 3-2 with Orton. No way they are even in the game against Atlanta. No way they pull out the Steelers game. Sure, the two missed FGs helped in that game, but Cutler still had drive the offense down the field twice in the 4th to get the win.

Last year, Cutler did have most of the same talent, except any semblance of a running game, and put up far better stats. He was let down by a terrible defense. He didn't give up 52 to San Diego last year. Just check the stats from last year to this to see where the Broncos rank offensively. No question, they were much better last year. If Cutler had Mike Nolan as d-coordinator last year, he's still in Denver, Shanahan's still in Denver, and the Broncos may be the AFC favorite now. As it is, they probably make the playoffs and, yes, I doubt the Bears will, but the Broncos won't even get to the AFC title game. I still say there's no chance Orton is starting in Denver in two years.

Produce in the playoffs!!

Hey Smooth / pmars ,
You guys remind me of a loser who dumps their solid , longtime girlfriend because she's not a 10 ,in order to u hook up with what u thought was a hottie . At first - you think you hit the jackpot,then reality sets in when your "hottie " moves in , gets fat and max's out your credit card .
You're left with an empty wallet and a bruised ego , prayin' your friends won't notice the warts on your "hotties" lard a ss .

So now your solution is to bad mouth the ex to anyone who'll listen .

Did it ever occur to you 2 Einsteins to just admit that although Orton was an unflashy pro in Chicago - at least he WON games for you and just wish him well ?

I once had respect for Bears fans . . . but all this recent sore grapes Orton bashing I've been reading lately makes me realize that the Chi-town got what it deserves ...

Jay " the wart sproutin' , lard-bottomed , over payed ex-hottie " Cutler

ENJOY .

Capnfoxboro, you don't even know me. I like Orton. He's a fellow Purdue alum. What I don't like are disillusion football fans who think he's a great quarterback overnight. He's always been solid and will continue to be. To compare orton to someone like Brees is nonsense. They are completely different quarterbacks.

I'm not sour about the trade. i wish orton well. And if I'm the bears I'd still do that trade any day of the week. It's a trade that worked out for both teams.

Enough with this "orton won games in chicago". No the bears won games. Orton was god awful his rookie, because he was a rookie, yet the bears still won 11 games. If you still think orton was the reason the bears won, I really don't know what to tell you. The bears went 9-7 last year and missed the playoffs with Orton at QB. He did the same thing Jay Cutler did, missed the playoffs. But I forgot he's still a winner. In the end the only thing that matters is winning the superbowl, something neither QB has done. WHo cares what his regular season record is? Unless of course you like setting standards low.

Scot, how many bears games have you watched this year? You do realize Cutler led the Bears on game winning drives against the Steelers and Seahawks? And that Atlanta game you keep bringing up, he drove the offense down the field 90+ yards for a game tying TD, and they went on another long drive to tie the game. it didn't work out obviously, but to say that the ONE throw cutler made is how he does on game winning drives just make you sound like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Hey CapnFoxboro,
No worries, mate. It's just hilarious how folks are so much the prisoner of the moment. As for the girlfriend, sounds like someone secretly wishes he had chosen the 10 instead of playing it safe. :)

Cheers!

Regardless of the surounding cast you still have to produce and Orton had done that .

he has basically not thrown a pick so far this year but of course that will be attributed to the broncos defense ...

What is getting left out in the comparison is that Jay Cutler is in Ortons old offensive role putting up the sme numbers numbers Orton was on pace for last year before he got injured . Just go to the game logs and add them up .

So when people try to attribute Ortons success as only being because of the players surrounding him they are 100% wrong .

Orton is running a much more sophisticated offense in Denver than jay is running in Chicago and that offense puts way more responsibilities on the QB making changes at the line of scrimmage than Chicagos offense . Last year the bears had one of the best no huddle offenses in the league under Orton which they used to offset the weak blocking of the line and now you dont see it at all under Cutler and hes getting blasted . This is with the Bears running a similar offense to what Cutler ran in Denver under Shanahan.

Sorry but I know its a tough pill to swallow but Orton is shaping up to be as every bit as good of an nfl QB as jay and the rate hes improving maybe even better .