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Where is Orton's extension?

Cutler gets paid, and Orton should be next. Matt Bowen

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We all know that Kyle Orton and Jay Cutler will be forever linked when it comes to the Bears and the Broncos.

Last spring, it was the Bears who got the better half of the deal. Yes, they had to give up draft picks, but they were receiving a franchise quarterback in Cutler while the Broncos, well, they were just getting a guy who was a fallback plan after Josh McDaniels couldn’t find a way to bring Matt Cassel to the Mile High city.

Kyle OrtonAPQB Kyle Orton has led Denver to a 6-0 start. Where is his contract extension?

But, we were dead wrong to judge that deal back then.

I completely agree with the Bears’ decision to give Cutler an extension that our own Brad Biggs first reported here at the NFP late last night. He has all the tools that you look for in a franchise quarterback, and with the serious issues they are having up front with the running game, he is the only outlet for this club to produce points. You lock up players like that in this league.

Does he take too many risks? Of course he does, but there is a quarterback up north in Brett Favre who has made a living doing that and is doing it better than both Cutler and Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers this season in the NFC North.

However, if Cutler deserves the deal, then where is Orton’s “new money?” Because that guy is playing better than any quarterback in his own division. He is protecting the football, he is making big time throws—like the TD pass to Tony Scheffler on Monday night—and he is doing what might be the best thing for the Broncos: keeping Brandon Marshall happy.

Orton is leading an offense that is currently 6-0, and although they are the surprise of the 2009 season, they aren’t going away. They are as good as their record tells us.

Sure, he is a product of Josh McDaniels’ system, right? Well, so was Matt Cassel, and so was Tom Brady to some extent. You see, there are no “system” quarterbacks in the NFL. This league isn’t the Big 12 or the University of Florida. Denver doesn’t run the spread. Nor does New England, or Indy or New Orleans.

Kyle OrtonAPOrton is running head coach Josh McDaniels' system to perfection.

McDaniels' system, just like Sean Payton’s down south, is a pro offense that needs an efficient pro quarterback to run it. And that is what Orton has turned out to be. No, he is not like Cutler in the fact that he can’t drop back and throw it 65 yards on the fifth step of his drop, but there are only about five QBs in the league who can do that. Orton can produce points, and he can make every throw that McDaniels calls from the sidelines.

And, after this hot start, I doubt McDaniels is going anywhere for a while in Denver. And neither should Orton.

Peyton Manning and Tom Brady seem to be the next quarterbacks in line to break the bank with a massive contract, but Orton should get some cash, too. He has proven that with his play thus far, and the Broncos have proven that they made out pretty well on that trade, as well.

Time for Denver to start planning to pay up.

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Norm from Cheers
Oct 21, 2009
12:14 PM

Don't see Denver giving an extension until Orton takes this team to the playoffs. Once they clinch a spot, then he gets paid.

The Good Kid
Oct 21, 2009
12:26 PM

I always thought Orton recieved a raw deal from the Chicago fans, and I think its about time he gets his due. The guy is a winner END OF STORY. While he was the QB of the Bears, he never really had a great offensive line or great playmakers. Now he has both & he is flourishing. I'm glad for him, and yes he does need to get an extention. As the weeks go by, I can't help but think that the Broncos fleeced the Bears in that trade.

Kyle Orton
Oct 21, 2009
12:37 PM

That touchdown throw to Sheffler wasn't an aberration...... I make those throws all the time.

Truthfully, I was throwing the ball away, but kind of underthrew it (like I did Hester all last year).

Scot
Oct 21, 2009
12:46 PM

It's not a fleecing. The Bears knew exactly what they had with Orton - a QB who would deliver a win 2 out of 3 times you put him on the field. I've said it a million times. Kyle Orton = Drew Brees. Other than the fact that the teams Brees has played on have, up to this year, had twice the offensive talent that any of Orton's Bears teams had (with consequent better stats), and the difference in OPPORTUNITY thus far in their careers, I defy anyone to identify any substantive differences in what they bring to the table as a QB.

swansoncide
Oct 21, 2009
01:18 PM

I hope all of the NFP columnists who are cheerleading for Cutler's new contract stick to their guns when it becomes apparent that this was a horrible mistake. So far he's won one game and lost two...I don't see this ratio improving. The more Cutler is rewarded for making terrible decisions, the harder it will be ti turn him around.

The Bears will regret this contract. They will regret the trade. Rex Grossman led the Bears to the Super Bowl, remember that.

Smooth
Oct 21, 2009
01:40 PM

LOL @ Rex Grossman "led the Bears to the Super Bowl". The Bears went to the Super Bowl despite Rex Grossman. When they got there he crapped down his leg again.

Orton is NOT Drew Brees. As a Purdue Alum I can tell you many people feel this way. Orton is taller and might have a stronger arm (even that is debatable), but Brees is more accurate, and throws a deep ball a hell of a lot better. Orton could not win big games at Purdue and the time they were ranked #5 and he was up for the Heisman he laid an egg and fumbled the game away to Wisconsin. Brees was a finalist for the Heisman, led Purdue to it's first Rose Bowl in 30 years. Despite Orton having better weapons and a better overall team he couldn't do that.

Orton is doing well in Denver, but lets put things in perspective here. This is/was a long term trade for the Bears. To compare the two after 6 games is completely ridiculous. They are different situations, teams, systems, etc...Cutler is being asked to be the franchise QB they thought they'd get and he is doing that. He is their only offense at the moment and anyone who has watched him play can see he is the only reason the Bears are even in position to win games. Add to that the pressure that came with the trade and I'd say he's doing pretty well. Orton is a completely different situation. He's not being asked to do as much. Denver has a better o-line, running game, WRs and defense. He's doing what is being asked him.

If the trade never happened the Bears would probably be 1-4 and Denver would be legit super bowl contenders, instead of people still doubting them. This debate about Orton's win/loss record to say he's a good QB is silly. Lets talk again in 4-5 years and see where both these QBs are and how their teams are doing. All this chatter after 6 games in a season is nonsense.

Prior Lake Penny Pincher
Oct 21, 2009
01:44 PM

So far Orton has looked good if not excellent, but after that dreadful preseason and the spotty play last year, I just don't think there's enough history yet...I'd waffle a little bit if I was the GM and would like to see a few more games out of him yet. It is Matt Cassel all over...high risk, high reward. If Orton pans out and those 1st picks turn into solid players, Denver will come out looking pretty good.

Scot
Oct 21, 2009
02:36 PM

Smooth;

I'll take that bet. Kyle Orton's winning percentage vs. Jay Cutler's winning percentage after week six of the 2014 season. Name the amount.

Smooth
Oct 21, 2009
03:12 PM

Scot, win % doesn't measure how good a QB is what I was saying. Are you going to tell me that Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Marino because he's won a Super Bowl?

That's the point. Football is not an individual sport. Or did Orton score two special teams TDs the other night? Is orton playing defense for the Broncos as well? No he's not. Orton won 10 games as a rookie playing like rookie. So bad that he was benched and replaced by Rex Grossman. But hey "he won" 10 games so he should be a good QB. Um...no.

If you want to compare quarterback numbers down the line I'll take the bet any day of the week.

Kyle Orton
Oct 21, 2009
05:06 PM

Smooth - quit hating on me because people who only watch the highlights think I'm awesome.
I am awesome! I drive a Prius and my passes are so good that no one can intercept them. They just burn right through the defenders hands so my guys can catch touchdowns.

Drew T.
Oct 21, 2009
05:06 PM

I think Orton's realization that football is a team sport, and Cutler's inability to grasp that, is ultimately why they are wearing opposite uniforms this year, Smooth. All McSixenO had to do is publicly declare Cutler the most important and untouchable player on the team, and the Cassell stuff would have been forgotten. Denver refused to blink, so here we are.

So far in his pro career, Cutler has played really pretty with marginal effect. So far in his pro career, Orton has played team football-- a little too risk free for some's taste, obviously-- with great effect. So I don't really get your argument at all. I'll take W/L over stats any day.

People tend to underrate how tough Cutler's decision making was on the Denver defense these last two years. They were bad enough on their own, but Cutler added a degree of difficulty to the mix. I think Bears fans are going to start seeing that playing out in Chicago over this season, too, especially since he has been so quickly rewarded for not changing a thing in his game.

As for Orton, he's just getting better and better, and he'll get paid. He's just probably focused on bigger things right now-- like winning.


pmars
Oct 21, 2009
05:10 PM

Could not agree more with Smooth... Orton has far better talent around him and, if not for a fluke in week 1 and Brady's poor play against the Pats, Broncos are 4-2, and not looking quite so good. Also, Royal had 2 TD returns for the Broncos that kept them in Monday's game. And Orton has probably the best WR tandem in the NFL, has an excellent o-line, has a better running game, and has Mike Nolan coaching lights-out as the d-coordinator. The Chiefs hung 20 on Dallas with far inferior talent while the Broncos scored 17 at home, no less, against the Boys. I'll bet the house that Orton is not the Broncos starting QB in two years. Down a TD late in the 4th and starting at the 20 and I'll take Cutler any day over Orton.

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