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Besides the workouts on the field in Indianapolis this weekend, there was plenty to talk about over a beer or a cup of coffee between the National Football Post and those in the game. Here are some things I saw and learned at the Combine. Matt Bowen

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Besides the workouts on the field in Indianapolis this weekend, there was plenty to talk about over a beer or a cup of coffee between the National Football Post and those in the game. Here are some things I saw and learned at the Combine.

Crabtree Doesn’t Measure Up

I’ve said it before about the NFL Combine: In Indy, there’s nowhere to hide when it comes to height and weight — and Michael Crabtree found that out when he arrived for the weekend. Beyond the fact that news of his foot injury shook the entire Combine — something I’ll write about later today -- he also measured two inches shorter than his listed 6-foot-3 frame in the Texas Tech program. Lots of mystery right now about the possible top-five draft pick. Any time something unexpected hits the surface in Indy, people start talking — and panicking.

Thompson Talks Kampmann

For all of those Packer fans worried about Aaron Kampmann, their Pro Bowl-caliber defensive end, moving to outside linebacker in Dom Capers’ new 3-4 scheme, you can relax a bit. At the media podium inside Lucas Oil Stadium, Green Bay GM Ted Thompson said Kampmann will only align at the linebacker position about 50 percent of the time and will have his hand on the ground at defensive end in most, if not all, of the Packers’ sub packages (nickel, dime). It makes sense, and it will allow the Packers to get the most out of Kampmann at both positions. He is too talented rushing the passer to drop him into coverage from the linebacker position on third downs.

Andre Smith’s Escape From Indy

We all know the story by now, but in case you were watching the NBA or were at the museum this weekend, Alabama tackle Andre Smith decided to catch an early plane back home to ‘Bama — but he forgot to tell the league about it. I’ve seen some flat-out stupid behavior before in this league, but this move by Smith tops them all and will live in Combine lore for a long time. The talk in Indy said his stealth mission to the airport — coupled with his suspension from the Sugar Bowl — might cost Smith top-five money on draft day. His excuse was lame, his apology scripted and his weekend a total bust.

Bills Want More From Whitner

People I talked to close to the Bills said the team wants to see safety Donte Whitner make more plays in the passing game — and they want him to last. The only solution I heard was moving Donte to free safety full time. The Bills are a Tampa 2 defensive team, but they play their share of Cover 1 and Cover 3 in their eight-man front, which moves Whitner into the box — and adds more hits onto his career. After seeing the result of the enormous physical contact to strong safeties such as former Bear Mike Brown and the Colts’ Bob Sanders, the move to free safety makes sense for Whitner. The Bills drafted him too high to waste him down in the box on Sundays.

Washington Wanted Release From ‘Skins

Marcus Washington, who played the past five seasons in a Redskins uniform, was released over the weekend. A former teammate of mine, and the life of the locker room and huddle (he used to recite lines from “Old School” and “Napoleon Dynamite” during games), Marcus wanted out of D.C. He experienced some injuries the past couple of seasons and found himself off the field on third downs — a time when many defensive players make their money. Although the release may be a surprise to some Redskins fans, Washington wanted a fresh start with a new franchise.

Williams and the Saints

I bumped into my old defensive coordinator, Gregg Williams, who is now the new defense boss for the Saints. This move didn’t get as much media exposure as it probably should have, but I still believe Williams is the best coordinator in the game, and it was hard not to notice his enthusiasm when talking about coaching on a team that included Drew Brees and an explosive offense. It’s a lot easer for an attacking coordinator like Williams to take some chances in his game plan, knowing that Brees and the offense are going to put up points. It’s only February, but if the Saints make some additions to the defensive side — which I expect they will with Williams in town — they’re going to be tough to beat in the NFC South.

Confident Terps Rookie

When Maryland wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey took the podium inside the media room the other day, he proudly announced that he wouldn’t “strain” himself when he ran his 40-yard dash for the NFL world to see, which made me laugh — for about 10 minutes. I like confident players, but I can’t stand arrogant rookies. However, the guy delivered, running a 4.27 and 4.29 from our sources inside the dome, and had an official league time of 4.3. Folks, that is monumental speed. Now all he has to do is show up in the stat column this fall — and drop the attitude when he walks into an NFL locker room.

Rex’s Dance

When asked about free-agent safety Jim Leonhard, new Jets coach Rex Ryan told the media he wouldn’t give up any draft picks for players. OK, but signing Leonhard — a free agent — wouldn’t cost the Jets any picks. According to our own Michael Lombardi, the Jets will make an offer to Leonhard as soon as the market opens. Funny how coaches try and sidestep questions, but that answer pretty much showed that Leonhard is on the Jets’ wish list.

Agents Galore

Ran into a lot of agents over the weekend, and I pretty much got the same response from all of them -- a business card and a rundown about how great their prospects are. After a couple of beers, their guys went from being first-day guys, to first-round guys. But after a few Bud Heavies, I also went from a guy who writes about WWE Divas on Fridays to J.D. Salinger.  Good times.

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Mr.Murder
Feb 23, 2009
01:06 PM

4.27 speed from a guy that it seemed to be his main question mark? He didn't want to outrun the arm throwing him the ball?

Washington is a two down linebacker now, and the Raiders need a two down linebacker. Peeps are keeping an eye out for some value there.

Whitner was a player I wanted in the draft, instead of Huff, based on the speed and explosive ability. My wish was for us to trade back and snag Whitner, letting whoever we traded with get Huff.

Had we tried it the Bills would have messed that plan up. People were making fun of that pick but I thought he was the real deal as a playmaker. He's had the last laugh about it and he's been a solid pro.

His speed took up the coverage liabilities of Hawk and Carpenter in college. That was team ball, their power matched with his speed, it was very solid chemistry.

Da Coach
Feb 23, 2009
01:45 PM

Washington was a beast in DC before he had injury issues. Would like to see him go to a new team and get a starting job again....

Agree with you on the Saints. They could be pretty tough if Williams can run his defense like he did in Washington.

Chris
Feb 23, 2009
01:46 PM

I liked Marcus Washington a lot, but as a Skins fan, I was ready to see him go. He was definitely a fan favorite, but he has slowed over the past two seasons, and was always hurt.

Not sure HB Blades is the answer though...

Matt Bowen
Feb 23, 2009
01:49 PM
Matt Bowen

Chris- I hear about Marcus being a fan favorite....

He would line up over a tight end during a ball game and start reciting Will Ferrel lines from Old School to him before the snap.... Did it in the huddle as well all game long. Classic.

Sometimes a fresh start brings out the best in players and I think this will end up being a good move for Marcus in the long run,

Koition
Feb 23, 2009
01:55 PM

I was more worried about whether Kampman wanted to make the switch (and apparently he is excited about it), than whether he could or not...

Chris
Feb 23, 2009
01:58 PM

Matt -

I hope Marcus does well with someone else (other than NFC East).

I think he needs to be a pass rusher now though. He has lost his lateral speed and was consistantly beaten by TEs and RBs sneaking out.

But I think he has a couple years maybe as a ruch specialist. You were here when they used him as a pass rushing DE, I think. That should be his game now, in my opinion.

Matt Bowen
Feb 23, 2009
02:07 PM
Matt Bowen

Not a bad idea Chris... I know Blache worked him into the defensive front--and he was effective--when I played for the Skins. He can be a monster with that spin move against offensive tackles.

Romo4MVP
Feb 23, 2009
02:27 PM

I still see Crabtree falling a couple of spots in April because of the injury

JMac
Feb 23, 2009
02:33 PM

Dick LeBeau.

Mr.Murder
Feb 23, 2009
02:55 PM

Why not move to New Orleans along with coach Williams? He knows the system and someone who energizes teammates can go give you something extra. Washington might be a better value for intangible factors at this time.

The injury isn't the issue for Crabtree so much as a change in measurables. People expect straight talk for evaluative purpose.

Chris
Feb 23, 2009
03:03 PM

I wish Double-G was the Head Coach in DC... Now Orleans should feel lucky to have him. Their defense will now improve, and with that offense, the Saints may be able to do something this season.

I will always root for Gregg Williams. And by not hiring him, it's just one more reason I hate Vinny/Danny

Chris
Feb 23, 2009
03:04 PM

Mr.Murder-
You're probably right on with that. I'd bet that's where Washington will end up.

b roo
Feb 23, 2009
03:17 PM

Who came to the parties that Fortenbaugh set up for you guys?

Sammy
Feb 23, 2009
05:06 PM

Matt, are you going to, in any capacity be a defensive backs coach or some sort of defensive assistant in the NFL in your future

Matt Bowen
Feb 23, 2009
05:38 PM
Matt Bowen

Sammy-

The only teaching I will be doing is inside a classroom. Hope to teach some college english classes in the future.

Matt Bowen
Feb 23, 2009
05:39 PM
Matt Bowen

B Roo-

All I can tell you is that Fortenbaugh is a machine when it comes to party planning.

Dr.D
Feb 23, 2009
07:14 PM

Marcus W is always a favorite of mine, but he's not been the same player since the hip injury and I don't think that's the kind of thing that goes away at his age.
What's your take as an insider re. the annonymous (?Shawn Springs) accusations that Williams let his Dbacks coaches carry on a juvenile feud and refuse to speak to each other.

john
Feb 23, 2009
07:49 PM

Tell me you weren't at Ike & Joney's Matt. You can do better than that here in Indy...

Marko
Feb 24, 2009
10:17 AM

Jim Leonhard, a fellow Wisconsin alum, really stepped up his game this season with the Ravens. I hope he gets PAID in free agency. You simply cannot measure the size of that guy's heart to play the game.

Fuller
Feb 24, 2009
11:47 AM

Regarding Leonhard and Rex Ryan's comments. I think Ryan was referring to the fact that he didn't want to lose any draft picks for tampering with Leonhard before free agency opens. I think he was worried any comments about a desire to sign Leonhard could be considered tampering.

Matt Bowen
Feb 24, 2009
12:04 PM

Fuller-

That is a good argument my friend and could have some legs to it, but watching him reply I could see right through him.

Thanks for the comment.

JC in FL
Feb 24, 2009
02:35 PM

There is definitely a lot of excitement about Gregg Williams coming to New Orleans. As a long-time Saints season ticket holder, it's been frustrating to be very good on one side of the ball only to have the other side not hold up their end of the deal (i.e., Dome Patrol defense with inept offense in the early 90's, current offense with porous defense). Hopefully Vilma will resign, and between FA and the draft, the secondary will be shored up. Brees probably still has a good 5-year window ahead of him, but as well as he's playing and to not even make the playoffs the past 2 seasons has been extremely disappointing.

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