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Diner Morning News: Bengals Draft Talk

Michael Lombardi

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FROM MICHAEL LOMBARDI:

18 March 2009

QUOTE:   “Physical strength can never permanently withstand the impact of spiritual force.”  ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt

FROM CARLOS ‘BIG C’ HOLMES OF THE DAYTON DAILY NEWS... The Cincinnati Bengals have the sixth overall selection in this year's NFL draft and will be in search of an impact player on either offense or defense. The prospect evaluation process has long begun and the franchise is beginning to narrow down its choices. One impact player ranked high on the team's list is Ohio State running back Chris "Beanie" Wells. The Bengals have a need for a playmaker at the running back position behind starter Cedric Benson, and Wells is scheduled to visit the organization in Cincinnati the first week of April.

The Bengals have so many needs that it’s not unreasonable to think they could draft a back.  They have to prepare for all options, and even if a wide receiver that they graded high were still on the board, they would probably select him.  The Bengals rely on their coaches to grade the players correctly, and they rely on what they believe they need to determine whom they’ll pick. They’re all about team needs, so no matter where they pick in the round, they go with their predetermined need. 

The problem with how the Bengals approach the draft is that no one has seen all the players and can determine who is actually a better player, not necessarily someone who fills a need.  They have no one who can look at the draft board and make a horizontal determination as it relates to all the positions.  The position coaches make a vertical determination, but there’s no one who can look across the board and make the right call as it relates to talent.  Therefore, the Bengals allow the debate to begin but are really locked into their team needs.  Typically, whoever can argue the loudest and has the strongest opinion will be the voice heard in this kind of situation.  So the Bengals’ course of action in the draft will be determined by team needs and by the coach with the strongest opinion, regardless of his position.

This is why, when you hear someone say a player is a good fourth-round pick, or this person is a third rounder, it really makes no sense.  As someone in the league said to me last week about the draft, “When you hear scouts or executives talk about rounds and where they would draft them, they really do not get the draft concept.”  Scouts should describe the player, and based on that description, it will indicate the round.  Unless you have seen all the players at every position, it’s impossible to talk about rounds.  Rounds should equate to what a player does during his NFL career.  So first and second rounders should be starters, third and fourth are potential starters and fifth through seventh rounders are more likely back-up/role players and developmental players.  Nevertheless, no one is a fourth rounder.  Art Modell, the former owner of the Browns, used to say about the draft process, “When they come out of their mother, they do not say they’re a second rounder. We make them a second rounder.” 

A player who’s picked in the second round is only a good pick if he starts.  It’s not where the player is picked but how he plays once he enters the league.  The critical aspect is to make sure the evaluation matches the selection.  I used to laugh after the draft when scouts would come into the draft room, look over the board and say, “I thought that player was a second, thought he was a fourth and thought he was a free agent.” What does that mean?

Describe the player, describe his role for the team this year and next year, and that will tell you where he should go in the draft.  It’s all about how they play, not where we pick them. 

FROM VAUGHN MCCLURE OF THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE... Tackle John St. Clair signed a three-year deal with the Cleveland Browns (Tuesday). The Bears had offered their free agent tackle a three-year deal worth more than $4 million but St. Clair went with the higher offer from the Browns.  According to a source close to St. Clair, the deal is worth $9.1 million with $1.25 guaranteed.  Coach Lovie Smith said the team wanted to re-sign St. Clair but said there were other options in case he didn't.

I was amazed that John St. Clair was able to play left tackle last season, and I understood the plight of Bears offensive coordinator Ron Turner in coming up with new ways to hide St. Clair in protection.  But that was at left tackle, and when I look over the Bears’ offensive line, I see many holes. Having St. Clair was not a perfect solution, but at least he could function and allow you to buy time until you find a replacement who’s better.  That better player might be Frank Omiyale, whom the Bears signed when free agency started.  Omiyale will be the right tackle and Chris Williams the left tackle, so it will be interesting to see how the Bears handle protection in the preseason.  One thing is for certain, if I were with the Bears, I would make sure Williams and Omiyale play a ton in the preseason.  I mean three quarters in each game to make sure they’re ready for the rigors of the NFL season. 

The season doesn’t start until September, so the Bears have time to fix some of their line problems.  They had better make sure they have a great draft because they’re placing a large degree of their success in ‘09 on their ability to pick.  I prefer to think of the draft as a way to help the next year’s team and not have a sense of desperation with each pick. But there are times when you can hit a bonanza. 

FROM JEAN-JACQUES TAYLOR OF THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS... Jay Cutler wants out of Denver and has asked the Broncos to trade him. Many of you seem to think swapping Tony Romo for Cutler is a great idea.  It's not.  Actually, it's a horrible idea.  Consider this: What has Jay Cutler ever done? Nothing.  He has a great arm, but he's never led the Broncos to the playoffs. Don't forget, they choked away a three-game lead with three games to play last season, and he throws dumb interceptions with regularity because of his unwavering faith in his powerful right arm.  Yes, Romo can be frustrating with his gunslinger mentality and the turnovers it produces. And you wish he'd be more of a leader since, ultimately, that's the quarterback's job.

I don’t think anyone could have made the Broncos a playoff team, not with that defense and a lack of fundamental size and power.  Cutler is the reason they won as many games as they did.  The Broncos also had no running game. In his first season, they a bad offensive line, and in his second season as a starter, they had a defense that couldn’t stop USC. 

I think Cutler is wrong in some areas for this mess, but blaming him for not getting the team to the playoffs isn’t fair.  The Broncos had so many problems on defense, but because of Cutler's talent they won some games they had no business winning. Does he take chances?  Yes.  Does he make mistakes?  Yes.  Does he force the ball?  Yes.  Does he compete?  Yes, too much at times.  However, he’s still growing as a player, and we all know that the more you play the position, the better you become. 

I like the Romo-for-Cutler idea. What do you guys think? 

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Monsieur Scooby
Mar 18, 2009
09:47 AM

Romo for Cutler makes sense. Tony could happily execute a careful, short passing game, and Cutler would absolutely LOVE the spotlight of being a Cowboy. Dallas is the NFL's home for the self-impressed, and that's where Jay Cutler belongs.

Jacob
Mar 18, 2009
09:56 AM

I think Cutler is the better player. He's younger and has the stronger arm, although Romo's release is quite possibly the fastest in the NFL. Both guys are mobile. I like Cutler better, but it's not by too much.

The supposed "knock" on Cutler is that he has led the team to the playoffs in his three years in the league. That's absolutely laughable. I'm a Ravens fan and Kyle Boller had a winning record. Does that make him a great, or even average, QB? Absolutely not. It makes him a QB that has played on teams with great defenses and usually a better than average running game.

Jacob
Mar 18, 2009
09:59 AM

SJGMoney, I'd trade Eli for Cutler too. In a heart beat. You're not going to get the whining that Cutler has a tendency to do, but Cutler is better in every other area than Eli. Nobody would have the guts to do it, though.

James Scott
Mar 18, 2009
09:59 AM

Romo is the most overrated player in the NFL.
Getting Cutler for him would be grand larceny.

SJGMoney
Mar 18, 2009
10:00 AM

If I were a Giants fan this would scare me and I'd rather trade Eli for Cutler. Yes, that is right, Eli for Cutler. The Super Bowl is over, and yes he won it by finally putting together 3-4 good games in a row. But looking at his career, that is the only time he has shown any consistency. Watching the playoffs this year was enough for me. Eli may have won one Super Bowl but he cost the Giants another one this year.

Mr.Murder
Mar 18, 2009
10:01 AM

Why go through that much drama and trade a position for the same position?

Trade Romo and Cutler both, for someone else. One of NFP Diva pics, including one of Jessica. If we have to put up with diva mentality, at least let it have fringe benefits.


Or, trade the agents to other teams, keep the players.

One other player did make the Broncs a playoff team. Jake Plummer. Ouch! Ironically he didn't report for a trade from Denver to stall its being made official.

All to be run out of town for a guy whose agent doesn't want him calling your team his home town.

GC in DC
Mar 18, 2009
10:03 AM

Kinda wonder whether Cutler would say his arm is stronger than Roger Staubach's.

But mentioning Dallas reminds me of what Jimmy Johnson did when he took over for Tom Landry. By that time, the absolute face of the franchise was Hershel Walker, and Johnson traded him to Minnesota for a whole slew of draft picks. At the time, Johnson was close to being run out of town - he'd replaced one icon (who had been treated incredibly badly by Jerry Jones) and traded another. But that trade laid the foundation for the great Cowboy teams of the 90s. I'm not saying that Denver would get anything like what Dallas got for Walker, but what about trading Cutler for a big package of draft picks so that Denver can address their other needs?
One other question. Denver's big home field advantage is obviously its altitude. Does a passing game, which makes a defense work harder and longer on every play, play better to this than a running game?

Cheesehead TV
Mar 18, 2009
10:11 AM

Dallas' problem isn't the player playing the position - it's the coaching (or lack thereof) that the position is receiving. Romo...Cutler...doesn't matter. Jason Garrett gets a ton of pub, but he and Wade Wilson have done very little with Romo in regards to breaking him down at the fundamental level. That's why you see Romo keep making the same mistakes over and over again...

Jamison Y
Mar 18, 2009
10:13 AM

Romo for Culter makes no sense to me. We've seen Romo as good as he's going to get, I think. He's been around a while now. We know for a fact that Romo is a choke artist and isn't a leadder.

Cutler still has a lot of growing before he hits his ceiling and he's already thrown for 4000+ yards. I don't want Tony Romo on that team. TO abused him and that would never happen with JC because JC is 225 pounds of "take no crap". He's been vocal about B-Marsh and B has never tried to destroy his team.

I agree that JC takes too many chances, but if you knew you had to put up 35 to have a CHANCE to win every Sunday, you'd take chances too. He went to Vandy for Pete's sake, so let's not pretend he's stupid.

McD needs to swallow his pride, tell JC he's the guy, extend his deal and move on.

Eli was a little punk too forcing his trade and so was John Elway. They grew up and became champions. There's no reason JC couldn't also.

The Linc
Mar 18, 2009
10:23 AM

I've noticed that everyone is throwing the same criticism at Cutler now - he's never won, he can't even get to the playoffs - and just blaming him and ignoring how miserable the Denver defense (and run game) was last season. His attitude right now can be questioned but I don't think his ability should be. Just about every team in the league would be happy to have him under center. And hey if we're talking about trades that will never happen (Romo for Cutler) how bout the Eagles send McNabb and a draft pick to Denver for Cutler. . . and we'll take Dawkins back too!

Matt
Mar 18, 2009
10:33 AM

I find it funny that Taylor would be so quick to hammer Cutler when Romo has yet to win a playoff game. Or the fact that Romo is increasingly chocking in big games. Or the fact that Romo couldn't guide this year's team loaded with Pro Bowlers to the playoffs. As Mike points out, Cutler carried a team with one of the worst defenses in the league to within a half game of a division title.

latopia
Mar 18, 2009
10:38 AM

ML - "I like the Romo-for-Cutler idea. What do you guys think?"
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I think you're right *if* Dallas does its due diligence. What does Jerry Jones think? Who knows.

Because by almost every metric *within* his control, Cutler had a better season than Romo last year despite Romo's slightly higher QBR and far superior surrounding talent (Pittman v. Barber, Marshall/Stokley/Graham v. Owens/Williams/Witten).

Bottom lines: Cutler threw less bad balls (37% of INCs v 41% @ stats.com), completed more long balls (55 > 20+ v. 48 @ nfl.com), completed more 1st-downs (36% v. 33% @ nfl.com), took *far*less sacks (1.8% v. 4.3% @ pfr.com), delivered almost as many TDs (25 v. 26 @ nfl.com) than Romo -- behind a receiver corps with less talent or wattage than Romo's.

Bottom line: If you want a diva that plays for his QBR, stick with Romo. If you want a diva that guts out wins, go for Cutler.

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