FROM WES BUNTING:
In day three of my NFL draft value and scheme breakdown, I take a look at the third round and discuss some of my impressions in the wake of last weekend’s draft. The third round is interesting because we typically see teams either target prospects who have fallen through the cracks or overdraft players with elite ability and upside.
Picks I like from a value and scheme perspective…
RB Shonn Greene, New York Jets
Not only is Greene one of my favorite running backs in the draft class, I think he’s an ideal fit for what the Jets want to do on offense. The combination of Greene and Leon Washington gives the New York coaching staff a real thunder-and-lighting approach on offense, using Greene to wear down opposing front sevens, then bring in Washington to create big plays. By no means am I forgetting RB Thomas Jones, who should be a great mentor to Greene and has the ability to pound out some yards next season. But Jones is now on the wrong side of 30 and has taken his share of pounding throughout his career. So getting his eventual replacement sooner rather than later makes a lot of sense for the Jets in round three.
DT Jarron Gilbert, Chicago Bears
There’s no doubt that Gilbert was one of the most athletically gifted defensive lineman in the draft. The only question is what position is he best suited to play, the three-technique or the five-technique? The Bears answered that when they immediately inserted Gilbert into their one-gap-style defense. Gilbert finished his 2008 college season with 22 tackles for loss and 9½ sacks – exactly the type of penetrating tackle the Bears love inside. He possesses the burst, length and power to consistently knife through the line, shed blockers and create havoc in the backfield. There’s already some talent in place on the Bears’ defensive line, but I think Gilbert is too good an athlete to not see significant playing time in year one.
CB Asher Allen, Minnesota Vikings
Allen is a mature kid who was asked to play in space, on an island, against SEC competition since his sophomore year. He showcases a confident demeanor and good overall technique and possesses the instincts to be an ideal fit in the Vikings’ Cover 2 scheme. Allen is a lot tougher than given credit for and isn’t afraid to stick his head in vs. the run game. I think the comparisons of Allen to current teammate Antoine Winfield are premature, but at the same time, I can definitely see Allen starting within the next couple of years. His role in 2009 may be more as a nickel or dime back, but the Vikings did an excellent job identifying a guy who fits what they want to do and picking up a potential starter in round three.
Picks I like from a scheme perspective…
WR Patrick Turner, Miami Dolphins
The Dolphins have been desperately trying to find a possession-type receiver who can move the chains on third down and create plays in the red zone. It looks like they finally found him in Turner, the former USC wideout. Turner is a king-sized receiver who understands his limitations but does a nice job gaining an initial step and using his body to shield defenders away from the ball. He possesses catcher’s mitts for hands and does a great job extending his arms and plucking the ball away from his body. I think Turner’s best football is still ahead of him, and he gives QB Chad Pennington a big target to throw to over the middle. He should develop into the type of possession receiver that wideout Ernest Wilford never became in Miami.
WR Deon Butler, Seattle Seahawks
Butler never received the kind of attention he deserved while at Penn State, but I now expect him to carve out a niche for himself in Seattle. He’s an explosive downfield threat who can get behind defenses vertically and has the ability to separate underneath and work out of the slot. The Seahawks lost WR Bobby Engram this offseason and will definitely miss his ability to create mismatches from the slot and move the chains on third down. However, Butler possesses a similar skill set, and with a little seasoning, I think he has the talent to have a career comparable to the former Seahawks wideout.
Picks that left me wondering…
CB Lardarius Webb, Baltimore Ravens
I have no problem with the Ravens taking a cornerback with their third-round selection; in fact, I thought they might address their cornerback need in the first or second round. The thing that baffled me about their third-round pick was that they drafted the undersized Webb, who stands only 5-10 and 179 pounds. When I look at the Ravens’ depth chart, I see a group of smaller corners like Fabian Washington, Chris Carr and Domonique Foxworth, all of whom lack size and struggle when asked to cover some of the more physically imposing receivers in the NFL. I’m not saying Webb doesn’t have the makings of a solid contributing cornerback at the next level. I just wonder about the idea of bringing in another undersized corner to a group that needs to add some size and physical toughness to the position.
OG Louis Vasquez, San Diego Chargers

Vasquez is a big, physically strapping offensive lineman with a thick base and good lower body strength. He fits the prototype of size and attitude the Chargers want from their offensive linemen. But he isn’t particularly fluid and was helped out tremendously in pass protection by the quick-hit offense at Texas Tech. Obviously, the smaller splits in the NFL will help out with his lack of agility in space. But I still see Vasquez struggling when asked to handle any kind of burst or quickness inside. He has the frame and power to develop into a very good run blocker, but there are concerns about his agility and the fact that so few offensive linemen from Texas Tech’s spread offense have found success in the NFL. I think the Chargers’ fourth round pick, OG Tyronne Green, will give them more production up front than Vasquez.
OG/OT Robert Brewster, Dallas Cowboys
Brewster has the size and frame (6-4, 325) to look like an ideal fit for the type of big road-graders the Cowboys love to have up front. But after studying tape of him, you quickly see that he doesn’t play as physical or as strong as his frame indicates. He’s more of a finesse blocker who’s very coordinated and does a nice job using his feet and length to get outside and seal linemen away from the play. However, he lacks the type of athleticism needed to play tackle in the NFL and will most likely get kicked inside to guard. Brewster lacks the type of lower body strength to get initial push in the run game and doesn’t display much of a punch on contact. He’s a smooth, fluid athlete, but his lack of strength and overall power shows up consistently on film, and for a team like the Cowboys, who love powerful maulers up front, I don’t think he’s a good fit.
Do you think Dallas would've been better off using their 51st pick on Loadholdt or would he have been a reach there? Who was a better choice where they took Brewster?
what do you think about what the Eagles did in trading a third next year and getting some other picks?
Wes--
Webb was the best returner in the draft and a very physical safety on tape, not a DC. Size is an issue but he's got the perfect makeup to be a shutdown nickel. not to mention blazing speed and ball skills.
in the third round, a steal. would have gone in round two if not for dubious character early in his career at smiss.
How did Dallas not take Duke Robinson?
Steve:
Webb is a versatile guy who has played all over the defensive backfield, however, I can't see him playing any safety in the NFL at 179. Plus, I don't think he is nearly as explosive or physical as you are making him out to be.
KC_Cisco & Broo:
I thought Dallas would take one of those massive O-lineman Herman Johnson or Duke Robinson. They both seemed like good fits.
Nice call on Webb, Steve - This kid is a aggressive hitter who fits the Ravens style very well and is extremely happy to be there - Very versatile player as I commented above -
One other thing with respects to Webb's "character" issues at Southern Miss - He never missed a practice or class while there - That is all I am going to say about Webb to that respect -
Michael Johnson is project to take on but as a 3rd rounder why not? 6-7, 266 lbs DE that are very athletic don't grow on trees. Coach Lewis will coach him up and use him as a situational rusher early on. Classic boom or bust, hopefully he can get his head on straight.
"Leaves me wondering" why Robert Brewster, a fourth round pick (#75), is included in the Third Round Breakdown.
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Wes--
You should get your information with your eyes, not your ears......
Salmon: Brewster was selected in the third round, the first three rounds included 100 total picks.
The best third-round moves were by the Patriots, turning them into two #2's in next year's stronger draft. That is 'good math'.
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Apr 30, 2009
12:31 PM
Well you know we are gonna be on opposite ends with respects to Webb and Vasquez from our previous draft discussions here in the comments section, Wes -
So I am not gonna go there much, as I believe both are excellent picks and will contribute immediately - Webb will probably open up in the return game - I know it was the Southland Conference and Nicholls State, but teams refused to kick to this cat - He's a baller, the kid is versatile and I love what he brings to the table in Baltimore -
I like the Greene and Turner (as you know) calls though - Good reads on some of the other guys too -